Basic RG Question

[Taylor Hitchcock]

Hey there, I've been having trouble with one of the guys I roll with. Whenever I pull Rubber Guard (or at least by the time I arrive at Chill Dog), he has his head planted to my opposite sides armpit. Now I am a really flexible guy and even using Mad Dog I can't do Kung Fu Move. Now I either stay in this position or just switch to full guard and start over. What options do I have instead of abandoning Rubber Guard or trying to work a Rescue Dog?

[Jon Watkins]

Meathook to triangle, Pyramid to triangle, Crocodiles, Pump to Armbar, New York to Kimura, Mission Control to swim move, New York to swim move, Pyramid to triangle to omaplata setups,....that's a real big question.

[Taylor Hitchcock]

Sorry, messed up my question. What I need to know is how get my opponent to stop staying so tight to my body so I can actually work something instead of abandoning the position I worked hard to get. Also is the pump still usable while in invisible collar? That might solve my problem...

[AJ Camacho]

Ninja Choke?

[Jon Watkins]

It should be. I usually go swim move in Invisible Collar or try to finish with IC, but Denny uses the Chill Bar which is essentially IC without crossing your legs. So I don't see why you couldn't pump. I think there's some footage of Eddie pumping in IC on the Mastering the Rubber Guard DVD. Experiment though. See what you can come up with. How tight is the dude crushing you? Are you forcing this position? If I wanna hit some RG stuff, I usually go for the hip bump and flow lickity split into what I want if he stuffs it. If he doesn't stuff it, I'm in mount position on top. If the guy's playing tight, I'll try to bait him into opening something up with a little elbow dig on the neck or something painful. It's a little douchey, but if a guy's constantly playing tight, he's being a little douchey too cause you aint learnin nothing. There has to be holes somewhere in his game you just have to think on a dime what the hole is a climb into it and see where it goes.

+1 on the Ninja choke

[risisi]

Is it better to swin move than spin with leg curls?

[AJ Camacho]

Is it better to swin move than spin with leg curls?

I would just let the situation dictate the choice. If I'm hitting the deep hook all the way across my body and my hips are outside, then it's easier just to roll belly down for the swim move. If I'm getting stacked and/or my opponent is more directly on top of me, then flipping them over to spider web is usually easier for me.

[Scott Philips]

My god Jon Watkins, you basically just recited my own bjj game. I'd hate to meet you in a tournament sir.

[frank-theman-james]

Instead of working the traditional pathway through eg, try flying newyork, or better yet flying kungfu

[Jarrad Mckay]

MTS 15 has some good options for u.

[Jon Watkins]

My god Jon Watkins, you basically just recited my own bjj game. I'd hate to meet you in a tournament sir.

Thanks man, but you could always catch me if I'm feeling cocky about my top game and do something silly. Rubber Guard seems to halt alot of my top game passing. And passing is prolly my A game, but if you get that Meathook in you might put me in some sweep trouble. Or if you're a Puppet Master, I only a have a few counters to that that involve loosing points. I wouldn't count on finishing me with a triangle. I love sitting prying and turning it into 50/50 or the leg lace (I don't think this will be a legal finishing position, but I can pass your guard or take your back from here or I can mount of a back take feint). The last guy who finished me with a triangle was Sensei Ninja Noah and he had to secure it on top and hold it for about a 2 and a half minutes. He kept adjusting positions because I stubbornly kept separating my shoulder from my neck and he kept tweeking it tighter until he saw me turn blue in the face and I waited until I could feel things turning black just to test my blood choke endurance before finally tapping. Suffice it to say, I think my blood choke endurance is fairly strong. I'm no Farmer Burns, (Farmer Burns could not be choked out by man or noose) but I want to get there one day. But don't be scared. Everything is being revealed in Jiu Jitsu to everyone so any man can win on any given day. Marcelo Garcia shows everyone his moves because 1 he wants to challenge himself and 2 he thinks so far ahead of the other guy, generally, that moves don't even matter on the same level it matters for you and me.


Sorry if I busted out too many wild tangents or sounded cocky. Grappling talk just excites me.

[Taylor Hitchcock]

Thanks for the help guys, the Ninja Choke did work!