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john botello
03-06-2011, 11:43 PM
Post your favorite Cobrinha vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKs598OZVg

john botello
03-06-2011, 11:51 PM
This is probably fav though ..he's got great conditioning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hldAXzfLfA&feature=related

Jonathan Wylie
03-07-2011, 12:02 AM
Why was this thread edited? I thought it was funny.

john botello
03-07-2011, 12:45 AM
It's all in love man.. didn't want people thinking I was disrespecting him ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti4sqG85FU4

Jonathan Wylie
03-07-2011, 12:47 AM
I hear ya.

thomas j
03-07-2011, 08:56 AM
i love conditioning videos in the morning .

rock d
03-07-2011, 12:11 PM
On a side note, his DVD has incredible gi jiu jitsu... but every single move is highly complicated & REQUIRES grabbing sleeves and/or collars so I found it pretty useless (for no gi).

At the end there are vids of him winning no gi matches witch is odd.

Enrique "Kiko"
03-07-2011, 12:22 PM
Does this guy have any training DvD?

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 01:11 PM
On a side note, his DVD has incredible gi jiu jitsu... but every single move is highly complicated & REQUIRES grabbing sleeves and/or collars so I found it pretty useless (for no gi).

At the end there are vids of him winning no gi matches witch is odd.

He rocks a lot of his De La Riva, Reverse De La Riva, and Tornado guard over to no-gi.

He won the No-Gi Worlds in 2007 and 2008, winning all matches by submission except against Shane Rice in 2007 and Glover in 2008. He hit Darces, RNCs, Triangles, and Armbars galore.

He also placed Silver in ADCC 2009, and got a Kimura, RNC, and an Armbar.

This HL has some good no-gi stuff:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMCzXYwx2HE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVfxuMfKN_w

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 01:12 PM
Does this guy have any training DvD?

Yes.

http://www.budovideos.com/shop/customer/product.php?productid=27761&cat=&page=1

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 01:14 PM
He's a top 10 grappler of all time without a doubt. He's got more wins in the gi, but he's competed MUCH LESS without one. That said, he's never lost at his weight without the gi on, except for Rafael Mendes.

EDIT:

Seriously ya'll. If you have not seen the epic that is Cobrinha vs. Rafa Mendes for the ADCC 2009 Gold Medal at 65k, you are missing out on what is probably the best no-gi battle in history. It's definitely the most back-and-forth war in ADCC history.

What makes it so amazing is that they're rivals and it was both of their first times at ADCC. These guys throw everything but the kitchen sink at each other. Kimuras, heelhooks, reverse heelhooks, RNCs, calf crushers, anaconda chokes, darce chokes, sweeps, back-takes, good stand-up, the whole 9. It's everything a no-gi fight should be.

Tony Toffolo
03-07-2011, 04:06 PM
their rivalry is insane!

that match is the perfect example of just how close their skill levels are

Enrique "Kiko"
03-07-2011, 08:16 PM
Anyone have a link of this legendary match?

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 08:17 PM
their rivalry is insane!

that match is the perfect example of just how close their skill levels are

I know! Even though Cobrinha just opened a new school, and he said he's not doing the Mundials, he said he's like to do ADCC. With Leo Vieira not in the competition this year (that's the word), Rani Yahya, Ryan Hall, and Jeff Glover would be the only people likely to prevent another Cobrinha x Mendes Final Match.

I think it's Mendes' time, and although most people think he came closer to finishing Cobrinha with the 2 Anaconda chokes than Cobrinha ever came to finishing Mendes, I dunno. Cobrinha had the 50/50 reverse heelhook and made Mendes roll out of bounds twice. A lot of people forget that part. Who knows how close it really was though... Cobrinha came out and said those Anaconda chokes were wicked!

I'd love to see a no-gi rematch. I have a feeling it won't be a battle if they face again. I think one will finish the other in regulation time limits this go around. I have no basis for that. Just a gut feeling.

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 08:22 PM
Anyone have a link of this legendary match?

It was on youtube but just got taken down about 3 weeks ago...

Here ya go:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjM1MDQyNjcy.html

EDIT: To get to the finals:

1. Cobrinha beat Hiroshi Nakamura via Armbar, Joel Tudor via RNC, and Rani Yahya via Kimura
2. Rafa beat Jayson Patino via Triangle Amrbar, Justin Rader via Anaconda choke, and Leo Vieira via RNC

Enrique "Kiko"
03-07-2011, 08:29 PM
You the man WhiteMike

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 08:47 PM
Some of the things I find so interesting are the differences between two of Alliance's top dogs: Marcelo Garcia and Cobrinha.

They both are almost equally dominate. Marcelo is more accomplished in no-gi and Cobrinha is more accomplished in the gi. But they both have excellent performances in both. What always fascinated me was how well they are both known for their back attacks, yet they seem to have an entirely different strategy when it comes to attacking the back. Marcelo uses a lot of seated wrestling and the crucifix to take the back. Cobrinha uses a lot of inverted attacks and top side chair sits to take the back.

They're both always on the offensive and are incredibly fun to watch. True masters of the game.

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 09:01 PM
You the man WhiteMike

No problem. The last 15 minutes of the match do get a bit slow, but the first half hour and the final 5 minutes are enough to make it a match for the ages. Like I said...tons of attempts to finish from both guys, plus a clinic on how to use the DLR and reverse DLR guards without the gi. I really wish there were links to their matches leading up to this. Rafa hits the most unusual Anaconda choke on Rader and an equally strange RNC on Leo Vieira. Cobrinha breaks Rani Yahya's arm and slaps the RNC on Joel Tudor. Just all around greatness.

Rani and Leo didn't fight for Bronze because of injuries, so Ryan Hall fought Jeff Glover for Bronze instead. That was also an incredible match but it's not anywhere on the internet that I've been able to find. Lots of good back-and-forth action there too.

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 11:14 PM
Some Cobrinhas no-gi matches for ya'll:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InlPaNCuLeY
This is from the 2007 No-Gi Worlds, which was Cobrinha's first no-gi tournament as far as I know of. I believe he had a RNC, and a step-over Darce choke for his submissions. He ended up beating Shane Rice on points to win the Gold. In this match he immediately inverts and gets the Tornado guard sweep, then immediately goes into back-attack mode and showcases a beautiful high-crotch lift takedown to a back-take. He methodically passes and uses a Kimura control from the back to secure both hooks, flatten Borges, and sink the RNC.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlO__FnYsuc
Ryan was a purple or brown here, and did a good job by attacking with the reverse heelhook from 50/50 early on, but Cobrinha's legs are made of rubber. Ryan also did a nice job stopping the Darce choke off the guard pass, and defended the step-over triangle Cobrinha likes to do, but the back-attack skills and Rear Naked Choke were too much for Hall to deal with.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qXScMf-h7c
Rader's constant pressuring knee-cut pass just is a bad stylistic matchup for Cobrinha's reverse De La Riva guard. Some really cool leglock attempts in here. Strong effort by Rader for constantly pressuring the pass.

Mike Nall
03-07-2011, 11:19 PM
Just some fun videos:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XT3enw-3n8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hldAXzfLfA

john botello
03-08-2011, 02:15 PM
One of my favs to watch anyday !

Mike Nall
03-08-2011, 08:58 PM
One of my favs to watch anyday !

What's your opinion if Cobrinha and Rafa meet again at ADCC this year. Would you take Rafa to win again? I still can't believe he beat Cobrinha 3 times at age 19. Or 3x in the 365 days that he was 19. Whatever. Rafa is gonna be the next great one. He already is lol.

john botello
03-08-2011, 11:11 PM
I think they are both great athletes, and their technique is out of this world, but it's really too close to call in my opinion. One could capitalize on the others mistake in a instant. That's why we play the game

Mike Nall
03-08-2011, 11:20 PM
I think they are both great athletes, and their technique is out of this world, but it's really too close to call in my opinion. One could capitalize on the others mistake in a instant. That's why we play the game

very true sir

kying418
03-11-2011, 11:52 PM
Some of the things I find so interesting are the differences between two of Alliance's top dogs: Marcelo Garcia and Cobrinha.

They both are almost equally dominate. Marcelo is more accomplished in no-gi and Cobrinha is more accomplished in the gi. But they both have excellent performances in both. What always fascinated me was how well they are both known for their back attacks, yet they seem to have an entirely different strategy when it comes to attacking the back. Marcelo uses a lot of seated wrestling and the crucifix to take the back. Cobrinha uses a lot of inverted attacks and top side chair sits to take the back.

They're both always on the offensive and are incredibly fun to watch. True masters of the game.

Correction- Cobrinha is amazing, but Marcelo has an equal if not better gi record than him.

Marcelo is also a 4 time Blackbelt world champ, but he has also won worlds as a Blue, Purple, and Brown belt.

Mike Nall
03-12-2011, 12:31 PM
Correction- Cobrinha is amazing, but Marcelo has an equal if not better gi record than him.

Marcelo is also a 4 time Blackbelt world champ, but he has also won worlds as a Blue, Purple, and Brown belt.

True, and I know Marcelo is a 4x World Champ. I'm not necessarily comparing their records. Marcelo hasn't had a performance in the Mundials where he never had a point or even an advantage scored on him like Cobrinha. The only person to ever beat Cobrinha at his own weight is Rafael Mendes.

Look, Marcelo Garcia is my favorite of all time. I think he's the most exciting grappler to ever live and I think he's the most gifted grappler to ever live. I much prefer no-gi over gi, so I really don't want to argue about Marcelo and Cobriha's gi records. They're both fucking ridiculous, and Marcelo is 90% favored in my eyes to snag another Gold at the Mundials and ADCC this year. Cobrinha MAY do ADCC, but is definitely not doing the Worlds. It's all Alliance man. It's all family. I din't want to argue about two guys in the family. We both know that watching Cobrinha in the gi at the Worlds from 2006-2009 was like Watching Marcelo Garcia rip through ADCC from 03-07 and even 2009 until that last second where Pablo passed.

That's the comparison I was trying to make. When people think of Alliance, they think of Cobrinha in a gi and Marcelo in a black rashguard. That shit's iconic man.

In fact, I thought Marcelo Garcia's showing last year (2010) was fucking amazing. His two back-to-back N/S chokes, and man...that match with Murilo Sanata was easily one of the top 3 most entertaining matches of the tournament. Murilo is so slept on. Taking aside the Murlo match, where Marcelo got out of that ridiculous inverted DLR to back transition, the fact that he got two N/S chokes using the same pass, the same set-up, on two guys back-to-back, that saw it coming and couldn't stop it? Floored. Absolutely floored.

Do you know Mike Mysorewala? I'm sure you do. I'll link this match so others can see the greatness of the Marcelo style guillotine? There are some beasts that train at your gym. I did a seminar with Paul S. and it was incredible.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoHkfzeVRIM