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Carlos Rios
08-17-2010, 04:10 PM
I just wanna share with all you what has helped me get my game a heck of a lot better and in a short period of time. Even though my game is not off the roof, but i like to think its progressing fast.

As a philosophy student/fanatic i am very attracted to the 10th planet system and approach. Its all connected, like jason says in his episodes intro, its 'an entire universe'.
and it couldnt be more true...

Now, for my point. I think that if you train hard and on top of everything you add more detail to how you THINK about jiu jitsu and how your mind is working while you roll, your game will explode in such amazing ways. when you are stuck in a position, lets say someone has you on side control... if you cant remember Chris Herzongs amazing ghost escape and you seem stuck and feel like giving up.. use your mind as a tool. my jiu jitsu game has 6 limbs. arms, legs, head, and the motherfucking mind.

Picture yourself and see youself from an overhead perspective and see those holes and gaps your opponent has that you normally wouldn't see or think about when ur stuck in there. How many times have u seen ur partner rolling and you start yelling at him or her 'get that underhook!' or 'get his back' or 'you can put your knee on his belly!'. all these things he or she has and they dont do because they forget or whatever.

BE YOUR OWN CORNER MAN & SEE YOUR OWN OPENINGS WHILE YOU ROLL

This, to me, is an essential tool that will make you a better grappler overnight. I promise. I almost didnt feel like sharing this, but hell, we're a fucking family.

thats just my grain of salt to the 10th planet universe. Philosophy and thinking outside the box to me is just another tool in my arsenal... aside from my base ;)

what do you think?

Oh and for the record, believe it or not i dont smoke weed, hahahaha :) but i drink enough to put an elephant down. lol

Scott Elkin
08-17-2010, 07:21 PM
I think critical thinking is important, as I like to approach it intellectually too. Too much of philosophy is "analysis paralysis" and just coming up with theories, shooting down theories, and never really getting anywhere. Never in my life have I read so many long ass books to wind up at the end the same place where I started.

So if you mean philosophy more in the sense of some combination of "critical thinking", spirituality and problem solving, then yes.

(That was my Horwich moment)

Carlos Rios
08-17-2010, 08:34 PM
I think critical thinking is important, as I like to approach it intellectually too. Too much of philosophy is "analysis paralysis" and just coming up with theories, shooting down theories, and never really getting anywhere. Never in my life have I read so many long ass books to wind up at the end the same place where I started.

So if you mean philosophy more in the sense of some combination of "critical thinking", spirituality and problem solving, then yes.

(That was my Horwich moment)

Well, you're taking philosophy for the common way people approach it :)... which yes, it does involve redundant arguments lol. but philosophy literally means 'the love of wisdom' and wisdom is knowledge haha sounds so cheesy but its true. And yes you end up right where you started because philosophy has no answers... thats the whole point.. it stimulates you to think...think... and think some more. If it had any answers, it would be called science :) (astronomy was philosophy before we understood the stars, and so on)

But yes, i mean philosophy in the sense of thinking. critical thinking is a form of thinking, so yeah, critical thinking as well :)

Aab
08-17-2010, 11:22 PM
What if you only want to copy Eddie Bravo??? Because that seems what I want to do.

Bill Keeling
08-18-2010, 04:43 AM
One can not copy one's self, you can only be who you are.... You can emulate another persons behaviors, body movements, characteristics, but not the true "person" can be copied. In other words find yourself, instead of trying just to be like someone else ;) And Carlos, you need to open that Pandora's box, see you this evening!

Louis Ho
08-18-2010, 07:17 AM
Awesome post, Riosdrummer.

Carlos Rios
08-18-2010, 10:15 AM
One can not copy one's self, you can only be who you are.... You can emulate another persons behaviors, body movements, characteristics, but not the true "person" can be copied. In other words find yourself, instead of trying just to be like someone else ;) And Carlos, you need to open that Pandora's box, see you this evening!

Yeah man, im excited. Always nice to meet 10th Planet peeps around the globe :)

ifreez
08-18-2010, 10:56 PM
Well, you're taking philosophy for the common way people approach it :)... which yes, it does involve redundant arguments lol. but philosophy literally means 'the love of wisdom' and wisdom is knowledge haha sounds so cheesy but its true. And yes you end up right where you started because philosophy has no answers... thats the whole point.. it stimulates you to think...think... and think some more. If it had any answers, it would be called science :) (astronomy was philosophy before we understood the stars, and so on)

But yes, i mean philosophy in the sense of thinking. critical thinking is a form of thinking, so yeah, critical thinking as well

Ah, my man, Carlos. :)

And, yes, the odd time, through critical thought, tempered by methodological rigor, you'll stumble on a line of thought that does indeed transform your worldview. :)

Matt Wallace
08-19-2010, 09:03 AM
Bruce Lee said martial arts are ultimately the best self-help because they lead,if utilized to their fullest, to self-actualization. That is a higher goal thaen self-image actualization, because you're developing the REAL person. I've always thought of 10th Planet as the JKD of the grappling world. The haters and dogmatic cloth lovers prove it, to me at least.

Carlos Rios
08-19-2010, 10:24 AM
Bruce Lee said martial arts are ultimately the best self-help because they lead,if utilized to their fullest, to self-actualization. That is a higher goal thaen self-image actualization, because you're developing the REAL person. I've always thought of 10th Planet as the JKD of the grappling world. The haters and dogmatic cloth lovers prove it, to me at least.

Thats so true. I actually have that Jeet Kun Do book, though im not experienced in that martial art at all. But i agree with reaching a new level of actualization or nirvana when utilizing martial arts to its fullest. hell yeah

Bill Keeling
08-19-2010, 10:54 AM
Word!

hamzatu
08-23-2010, 05:19 PM
I told my students tonight that we are not philosophers...we are fighters. We do not study the philosophy of ying and yang...we apply ying and yang...When one of my students fights badly he gets arm locked...

mvelotta
08-23-2010, 07:59 PM
I'm not a philosopher, and I'm not religious by any means. I follow my own path in this life, but I do take interest in some of the philosophies of some of the great minds of the past. Here is a quote that I apply to my jiu jitsu as much as possible. Written in "The Art of War, by Sun Tzu"

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the
result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory
gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle."

So, I train my ass off, learn my own strengths and weaknesses, then study my opponents, their tactics, their strengths and weaknesses. Then I apply all that I have learned, and I apply it with a healthy dose of woop ass.

Carlos Rios
08-23-2010, 08:18 PM
I'm not a philosopher, and I'm not religious by any means. I follow my own path in this life, but I do take interest in some of the philosophies of some of the great minds of the past. Here is a quote that I apply to my jiu jitsu as much as possible. Written in "The Art of War, by Sun Tzu"

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the
result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory
gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle."

So, I train my ass off, learn my own strengths and weaknesses, then study my opponents, their tactics, their strengths and weaknesses. Then I apply all that I have learned, and I apply it with a healthy dose of woop ass.

i love that actually, and i agree. Its amazing to see how much the mind can help your game in jitsu or any martial arts.

And its also interesting to see athletes that train every day and are in great shape physically, but if your minds not there then their gonna suffer big time, or at least thats what i believe... a lot.

michael craig
08-23-2010, 08:24 PM
i hate to see great grapplers get on the mat and then let the bloodlust get them am try to out muscle rather then out think thier opponent