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Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 02:02 PM
Ive been learning the system for about 3 mounths now and im pretty good with the rubber guard. Im entering my first competition in october. Any advice and tips on wat to expect?

bobby rivers
08-18-2010, 02:18 PM
As in the Lieutenant of the Musketeers? badass

AJ Camacho
08-18-2010, 02:19 PM
Be fully aware of the rules.

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 02:28 PM
As in the Lieutenant of the Musketeers? badass
Your right about the Musketeers part. Thats who i was named after.

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 02:34 PM
Be fully aware of the rules.

http://www.fxgrappling.com/Scoring.aspx

theres a link to the rules, wat do u think

Jesse Bell
08-18-2010, 02:42 PM
Pull Guard
Breathe
Concentrate on positioning
Control the hips
Don't let him pass
Have fun

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 02:50 PM
That sounds like a pretty good plan.

AJ Camacho
08-18-2010, 03:04 PM
http://www.fxgrappling.com/Scoring.aspx

theres a link to the rules, wat do u think

It's standard IBJJF rules. Here are the banned moves.

AGES 16 TO 17

SLAM FROM THE GUARD

LEG LOCKS

CERVICAL (only without chokes)

BICEPS LOCK

CALF LOCK

WRIST LOCK

MATA LEAO WITH FOOT

SCISSORS TAKEDOWN

HEEL HOOK

FROM ADULT THROUGH SENIOR (BLUE & PURPLE BELT)

MATA LEO WITH FOOT

SLAM FROM THE GUARD

LEG LOCKS

CERVICAL(only without chokes)

BICEPS LOCK

CALF LOCK

SCISSORS TAKEDOWN

HEEL HOOK

FROM ADULT THROUGH SENIOR (BROWN AND BLACKBELT)

SLAM FROM THE GUARD

CERVICAL LOCK(only without chokes)

SCISSORS TAKEDOWN

HEEL HOOK

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 03:34 PM
So legs locks arent allowed in the adult beginner level? Im doing the no-gi tourny. it says The K.I.S.S scoring System For No-Gi Grappling but im still not sure if leg locks are allowed or not. If they arent that relieves alot of stress for me.

AJ Camacho
08-18-2010, 03:43 PM
That's what it looks like. You might want to call ahead and verify because it seems weird that they wouldn't even allow a straight ankle lock.

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 03:56 PM
Ill call and make sure but if not im fine with it. And does anyone know if having the invisible collar on and holding it for a little would be considered stalling? It is a submission and would i get points for holding it for 5 secounds like it says.

Renato Laranja
08-18-2010, 05:20 PM
Don't think too much. Just flow with the go.

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 06:56 PM
Don't think too much. Just flow with the go.
Yea that too lol

RW Pegau
08-18-2010, 07:02 PM
Video Video Video! Get that shit on film. You have no idea the things that can be corrected when you and your coach sit down and watch your matches/fights. You will learn tons!
Be ready for intensity that is considerably higher than at your regular gym that you rolls with friends at. In competition, people are going to try and take your arms off. Be prepared and be tight with everything you do. If you are going to play the rubber guard game, have a clear train of thought as to how to get from step A to step Z. Make your opponenet stop your flow, not the other way around. Good luck to you, i hope you do well. They only get more exciting and addictice from here.
(sorry about spelling)

RW

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 07:21 PM
Thanks for the support and advice RW Pegau. Ill do my best and put the video up so yall can tell me wat to improve and wat not.

Nate Musick
08-18-2010, 07:24 PM
It's a competition man, just remember not to underestimate. Like Renato said, go with the flow. Rubber Guard is great but don't forget your basics. Work every angle of jiu-jitsu you know and let it all just flow to you. Surely you'll be able to come out on top.

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 07:57 PM
Thanks Nate i wont undersetimate anyone.

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 08:09 PM
Every angle of jiu-jitsu you know, Im pure 10th planet with a few other tricks, but its pretty much only 10th planet stuff.

bobby rivers
08-18-2010, 08:35 PM
Don't count on points for ic. Do take that far arm or kung fu move.

NelsonLucca
08-18-2010, 08:40 PM
DJ, you know I'm hustling right now so we can get Chris down here in December but I'll try to put some stuff together that we could work on. Breathing is key. Try to be aware and just avoid silly mistakes.

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 08:54 PM
The gogoplata set is my go to moves so the neck is getting cleared. Nelson I look foward to what u got planned

Dave Brown
08-18-2010, 09:20 PM
Good luck and definitely shoot video it would be inspirational and great learning material for your fellow beginners like myself.

Dartangan Jackson
08-18-2010, 09:52 PM
Thanks Dave. I wil definitely record it if it will help my fellow 10th Planet Brother.

Lauren Stalcup
08-19-2010, 01:07 AM
1)AGRESSION. These people literally go in to mess you up. I have to consistently stretch out my elbow (fairly annoying) and keep my neck in check from TOURNAMENT injurys.
2)GET A TAKEDOWN/THROW ASAP!!! It's points, and you get a good starting position. that's my mistake, and I'm not planning on making it saturday (GrapplingX, San Diego). You WANT to start on top for armbar, etc.
3)Keep a clear mind. when you train, train your instinct. learn how to do the move first, then drill it without thinking. just do it. it'll get into your mind and you would surprise yourself when you do it without thinking
4)breathing is importaint, but dont stress over it. don't hold in breaths, or just focus and let the breathing come naturally.
5)Get every submission you have a chance at
6)if you get a position, get to a better one (Turtle to back, side to mount, ETC) if possible. when you get a good one, KEEP IT. DO NOT LET IT GO!!!
7)if you get a submission in, keep it unless your at least 80% sure you lost it
8)if you are standing and your opponet is on the ground, get knee on stomach asap. that's how we train at my gym. grab the ancles and pass. work on that.
9)if your sitting and your opponet is on the ground, think for a second, do you know sweeps, or will you take your chances on your feet?
10)HAVE FUN, and don't stress. win or lose, it's experience
11)record every second you compete n video, on your cell or something you have with you alot. Show it to your head instructor when you're reeady to learn what you did wrong, have them help you with what you didn't do right.


That's all I can give you, other than please don't enter 13-14 Teens 115-130 Pounds. Haha I seriously would hate to have to match up aganst someone like last time (NOT from tenth planet, but hey, I'm not either. I just try to put what's on here in my training!).
-Lauren :)

Martin Ashton
08-19-2010, 04:09 AM
Attack first - attack fast - attack hard !!!
And keep attacking till you win !!!

John Roderick
08-19-2010, 05:52 AM
Hey Bro! Welcome to the 10th Planet Universe! After looking through the advice you've been given, it's pretty sound. All I would say is the following:
1.) focus on YOUR game and strategy. Don't get caught up in worrying too much about your opponent or what they can do. Concentrate on imposing your will and game on THEM. Make THEM react to YOU.
2.) BE RELAXED prior to going on the mat, but focused. You see all the time the guys getting all psyched up, yelling, carrying on, and jumping about going over their "money moves" and then they tank on the mat. The more mentally and physically relaxed you are prior to the match, the more focused and relaxed you'll be when competing
3.) as someone else said: be FULLY AWARE of the rules. Make certain you understand them and base your gameplan around the rules. If they don't allow "windpipe attacks" be wary of going to the Gogoplata for instance as some tournies are considering that a windpipe attack. Also be aware that MANY of the refs for these organizations either A.) don't know and aren't well-versed in our techniques, or B.) don't agree that our system is Jiu Jitsu. I and many of my students haven't had points scored for techniques that were clearly sweeps. It sucks, but it's true
4.) GO FOR SUBMISSIONS! Don't leave it to the point system or the ref to judge. TAP the bastard!
5.) have a plan b, c, and d, in case your money move doesn't work
6.) take plenty of light, easily digestible snacks and drink so that you aren't lacking or hungry and can perform to the best of your ability. Don't cut so much weight you're dead, and make certain you eat lightly a couple hours prior to competing
7.) above all, have fun, be safe, and DON'T LET GO UNTIL YOU FEEL A TAP OR THE REF TELLS YOU "STOP" :)

Matt Wallace
08-19-2010, 06:39 AM
One thing that I wasn't ready for was the pace. When u roll at an academy, most of the time it's pretty controlled. In the beginner levels, u get dudes that are very "go go go! " and still using alot of muscle instead of leverage & technique. If u respond fast but stay cool, u can work your game. And be prepared for the adrenaline dump- it's going to happen, so don't wig out. It's normal.

Donovan
08-19-2010, 08:37 AM
Get some beta blockers, if not you'll be a nervous wreck.

Jon Helton
08-19-2010, 08:39 AM
What John Roderick said. ;)

AJ Camacho
08-19-2010, 09:00 AM
Eat a banana. Potassium works well to prevent your muscles from cramping. Somebody else told me that one.

Dartangan Jackson
08-19-2010, 10:20 AM
Thanks for all the advice guys. I want to bring home a win for 10th Planet.

hamzatu
08-19-2010, 07:03 PM
Take a deep breath before you begin and relax. This will help get rid of the butterflies. After that don't think to much. Just put together a little game plan, first few moves. And have some fun.

CoryBrister
08-19-2010, 07:10 PM
Tip #1...competition is a bad place for experimentation.

Dartangan Jackson
08-20-2010, 12:47 PM
Thanks for all the supprot guys