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What is everyones take on learning Gi chokes if your main focus in competion is NoGi. Do you think its worth your time learning them while traininig with the gi or would you rather focus on other submissions that dont require much use of the gi??
I just wanted everyones opinion if they feel it has helped there nogi game at all and what do you think about this Renato??
Yes Nabil, yanking and pulling is better for your clinching and squeezing than clinching and squeezing :)
Is nogi competition your main focus or your only focus?
The Gi chokes obviously won't come into play in a nogi tourney but they may save your ass in a street fight one day...your call killer.
i have a question so if your using the gi why doesn't anyone use there belt to strangle people from back mount?
Ummmm....cuz it's unrealistic to stop fighting for long enough to whip off your belt?Quote:
Originally Posted by sly
ROFL!
oh i thought if it was lose you could reach down with one hand and pull it off then thread it under the guys neck and choke him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roofliss
Oh my bad broseph I didn't realize that was a serious question. I've had guys try to hit weird sweeps on me by grabbing my belt between my legs from behind and other strangeness like that but as far as submitting with the belt I'm pretty positive that it's against tourney rules so most schools frown on it. I know it'll get ya a talking to at my gym.Quote:
Originally Posted by sly
not that serious i was just thinking that the whole gi thing is silly why did they event it or where did it come from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roofliss
You can't do it as it's an illegal technique.
NO-GI > Gi
Wtf!!!???? Another nabeel??!!! Lol :)
I believe in one of the MTS episodes you can see a quick clip of Renato demonstrating a belt choke on someone...so it must work. I forget which exact episode though one of the earlier ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by sly
BAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie
That was the greatest thing I have ever witnessed!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
WTF's a Gi?
Lol, you must be a gi guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Roofliss
see thats the best gi moveQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie
Your question says that you are 'focused' on no-gi. If you are only only doing no-gi, then don't bother, but if you are doing gi, you'd better learn them. If someone is untucking your gi or untucking theirs and you don't know what is going on, you are about to by brought into a world of hurt.
Oh, and for you non-believers: http://www.submissions101.com/videos...tailed/26.html
Do you have to start with the belt tied? Just curious
"Yes Nabil, yanking and pulling is better for your clinching and squeezing than clinching and squeezing" its an obvious ;)
Thats what I tell all my buddies that do Gi, I have only rolled in a gi a handfull of times just so I can get an extra roll in. I still dont see the scense of learning certain things in the gi especially if your main goal is MMA or no gi Jits. I just wanted people's thoughts behind it and the reason they beleive you should be learning gi chokes when you have other focuses you can work on the would benefit your mma or no gi game.
and what's up Nabeel, damn there's 2 of us ;)
I rarely roll with a gi but when I do I land gi and sleeve chokes everytime I do, I've hit Ari's belt choke, I've finished a gogo with my pant cuff, I've pulled the gi over a guy's head to sweep him hockey style lol it makes offense SO much easier. If you work your 10thPjj game in a gi just stop and look around for chokes. A lot of the time, since rg control is so much tighter, you can just grab cloth and push it up into his neck getting the choke.
hahaha ive thought about doing that so many timesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dustin Beck
Do it it works!Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Acherbo
I have a vid of me pulling it off but I don't know how to upload it.