Nathan, bro please help me out. What is this Dead Orchard I've been hearing about? I searched the technique list and its not on there. I've been watching a bunch of your videos, but not sure what I am looking for. Thanks
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Nathan, bro please help me out. What is this Dead Orchard I've been hearing about? I searched the technique list and its not on there. I've been watching a bunch of your videos, but not sure what I am looking for. Thanks
Trapping the shoulder with a figure 4. Game over.
Is it like this one? at 2:30 mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2RdyX6rSgs
Here is the first time I hit it in competition. It's like a triangle but with both arms in. I enter it from crack head or New York the most. Actually Phill and I made a video about it but it has seemed to sit in the editing process for a while.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYuBKgXMI8
I remember that first one! That got you your blue, and the rest was history! :)
No that the video eddie saw! I worded that retarded
First sub,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4EcWcpwj7M
Oh wow. so IT is like what she did in that video. I didn't teach her that nor have I seen it done before. But she actually pulled it off in a tournament. She has never even done it rolling at the gym. Now that I know it is a legit move and it already has a name, we will be incorporating it into her game more.
Super legit move. Ive felt it first hand and it sucks
So it's the Muddy Water concept except you triangle for the shoulder lock.
I didn't know until just recently it was called the Dead Orchard... at the midwest training camp when einstein was showing the muddy waters path my legs are so long I kept getting the triangle/figure four instead of ankle hooking when going for the muddy and it sempt to be working very well so I just reffered to it as Modified Muddy Waters until seeing posts about it on the forum
It ended up with a name because it was a pain in the ass saying "That move where you triangle your legs with both arms in" and Nathan Orchard was the one hitting it consistently in tournaments. Seriously at least one a tournament and he competes all the time.
now it all makes sense. definitely going to go for this in training.
My number one armbar in tournaments as well https://www.youtube.com/user/elonhodge1
One of our white belts does the same thing. Would like to see the technique vid so I can show him how you enter it.
I actually hit this in my second MMA fight without realizing it. Fight starts around 16 minutes in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5jvYHEWhDY
Ya, me too. I just called it muddy waters also. Finished a match with it in my last tourney!
Posted this vid a while ago and nobody chimed in and told me it was called the Dead Orchard. Thanks a lot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsDhnRkIvvg#t=0
nice
Another example from a Pan Am match a few years ago...this one is tough to watch though.
http://youtu.be/K30KrQdGIko
So on Monday, Cora got to roll with a bunch of MMA fighters as there weren't any kid in the gym. While in line waiting for her turn, she notice that one of the guy was doing the Dead Orchard on one of her coach. Right away she got my attention and for me to look at it. It was really nice. Don't know who he was but he was pulling off some rubber guard action as well. Of course seeing that put a smile on Cora's face. Then later that night when we got home, she wanted to try something. She figured out a way to do the dead orchard from mount!!!! Yes from mount!!! Most of the time she would try to get the head and arm for the mounted triangle, but instead of getting the head and arm, she got both arm and lock in the figure 4.
Curtis Hembroff is great at this; it is his go to move from Muddy Waters and he landed it at the last Grapplers Quest in Vegas. http://youtu.be/eAGplPa5_e4
Love this, think I've got it down - but any 10th Planet guys able to put a video as to the intricacies of locking this up?
Looking like there is a few options, but the one that would follow new path logic:
Mission Control -> New York -> New York Crack Head -> Dead Orchard
Also seen a version that went:
Mission Control -> New York -> New York Crack Head (at this point the shoulder was too high, so...) -> switch to double bag -> Invisible Collar -> Pump (Until shoulder clears arm) -> Dead Orchard
Those correct?
Last night at practice (Gi) I was trying to transition from the meat hook to the orchard and the bell rang as soon as i got close. My coach saw it and kinda gave me a look so I went to ask him if he has ever tried to use this technique, he replied Yes on white - purple belts but if you really get someone who knows what they are doing you are never gonna get it. what do you guys think?
Also, Phill has too many L's in his name. We gotta do something about this.
Says the guy named McCaghren.