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All I got from that film was that scientists are wrong about cosmic background microwave radiation.
https://philboettgesmutterings.wordp...iple-debunked/ - This Easily destroys their argument lol
http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/s...-geocentrists/ - Also, look at the documentary producer's educational background...it's laughable
And, Kate Mulgrew and Lawrence Krauss have stated that their appearance in the film was not intentional. Krauss in particular had quotes of his mined and then used out-of-context. Max Tegmark and George Ellis have also spoken out against their inclusion in the film.
This article ( http://www.popsci.com/article/scienc...est-physicists ) from Popular Science discusses some of the deceit that went into duping people into appearing in this film.
In this talk show the producers show the signed release forms and people on camera giving consent to be in the movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqNRR4pQYZc
What vcunha1 said. It's part of this disinformation-trend that's currently going on everywhere, it's right up there with the flat earth nonsense. Stuff like this is very, very dangerous, because it helps discrediting and distracting from actual conspiracies.
It's not an easy task, but people gotta learn how to filter trustworthy information from misinformation and disinformation.
First of all i would not pay money for to watch a science movie... aint that s*it supposed to be free?
Second i listened to what maestro Eddie said about that movie on the JRE and what i got is that the worlds we see up there are
on planes of heat or what ever
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we right now know that all pictures in the sky we see look like that as the image shows the world is in between the poles
here is a documantary about that , very interesting :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1UPORMPgqw
So with that said my idea for a sci-fy movie or the "sexy" idea of if the world was flat is this:
People were killing people back in the day for "thinking" that the world is round how ever the opposition was so strong
that people sailed out to prove it and they found the Americas , South America to be right so... if u draw a straight line
from Spain to prove the world is round u would supposed to hit North America if we look at the maps of round world wesee today. How ever C. Columbus hit the South of America if we look the flat Earth maps that go around on the flags of Un and so on it does makes sence... how ever that is a weak argument. Cus we dont know where to he actually sailed.
And her is the weird part and the idea i told u guys about .
If the world was flat and looked like all the worlds we see in the sky that have north and south anthere is an end where the poles switch maybe time travel and travel to other places could happen with a "doorway" u could just take a step , a leap of faith to where the line go up and down and where ever and u did be in another dimension.
So if we take that idea to be true , and the people in charge where aware of it and theywhere killing people to not try science.
Too keep us all safe from the unknown but we didnot listen we argued and when to the Americas and found a whole bunch of new races out there living in different styles and stuff and they where so many that they said : Well we told u its dangeruos
lets now say that the Earth is round so we can close this idea of travel cus we did be overwhelmed eventually if we found a couple of more of this type of "Worlds".
Thats my sci - fy idea and a thing to keep the ladies interteined ... anyways let me know what u think and dont be brutal my little heart breaks easy ;)
My idea is that if everything we see up there , if it all is on shelfs like they say it is in the docu ( acording to master Eddie @JRE )
and like it could be if the world was flat an ran on magnetics like all the things we see in the sky.
Then it does not matter what spins around what cus its just an illusion. An tho we see round stuff in the sky its actually planes.
The cosmic radiation background "snapshot" was taken twice, by 2 different space agencies. The "science" showed that we are in the center of the universe. I have no idea if any of that data is real or not but it appears that modern cosmology is in a state of confusion. NASA lied about all the moon landings AND there are no real pictures of space, just cgi composites. Put that all together and you should be seriously suspicious of all we are told about the cosmos.
Flat Earth should be really easy to test. Just get in a boat and sail around Antarctica. Those Flat Earth models would require you to go around the entire disk... a REALLY long journey. But if the journey is as long as a Round Earth model would suggest, then it's round.
Flat earth can easily be disproven with pictures of the earth from space, only problem is that there aren't any real ones, just cgi composites. There should be tens of thousands of pics. Weird, right? And isn't it weird that of all that video footage taken on the "moon" no one ever bothered to shoot the earth from the moon? Think about that.
Authentic pictures from space that have not been altered is one piece of evidence that the earth is a sphere but there are other ways to demonstrate it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs
thank you Jason ill see it and comment
Flat earth theorists claim things like space is actually a really big plasma TV screen above the flat earth, so they can project anything they want up there. They claim you can sail around Antarctica quickly because there is some kind of time dilation that happens at the outer rim when you move fast. They claim all photos of Earth from space are CGI, including the one you posted.
Flat Earth is a clear example of an ad-hoc hypothesis. The hallmark of ad-hoc is that you have to continually adjust and re-adjust your theory in the face of new observations and contradictory data. Giant plasma TV screens and time-dilation are examples of that kind of re-adjustment. The theory is obviously disproven by primitive methods of data collection like looking through a telescope, so more and more outlandish corollaries to the theory must be added so that it can "make sense".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hoc_hypothesis
Another ad-hoc theory is Dark Matter. Dark Matter is a theory that tries to account for the fact that science does not understand gravity accurately. Their models fall apart at the galactic level, so they must invent some invisible bullshit so that their equations balance and galaxies dont fly apart. It's clearly ad-hoc. But because they don't want to consider different models for what gravity is and how it works, they are stuck with dark matter.. at least for now.
There are alternative theories of gravity though. For example this one does not require dark matter.
http://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/
Worth noting that alternative theories of gravity call into question general relativity, which is a sacred cow in physics.
That's about as far as I went down that rabbit hole. If you have time to waste, let me know what you discover :)
You probably want to search for things like "Flat earth dome". The TV screen thing is related to FE theories that there is a big dome over the Flat Earth that they project images of space onto.
When you tell me that tower7 fell due to fires, and I see video of the fires, and then see video of the collapse, my bullshit detector goes crazy. Clearly that's a horseshit theory.
When you tell me the Earth is flat, my bullshit detector also goes off.
The video that was the subject of this thread tells us something very clearly. Scientists know fuck-all about what CBR is and what produces it. The idea that's it's residual radiation from the big bang is just a WAFG, a Wild Ass Fucking Guess. The same as the big bang theory itself.
The truth is scientists have no fucking clue where the universe came from, when it started, how it started. Big Bang is a WAFG.
Furthermore the government clearly makes shit up all the time. I am not convinced they have ever had any probe remain operational outside of low earth orbit. It wouldn't surprise me if the various levels of satellite orbit is the furthermost their gear works before it gets smoked by radiation in the VA-belts. But who knows. Maybe, maybe not.. I see nothing that convinces me they are being honest about that.
I'm a HUGE "conspiracy theorist".. at least I get called that all the time. But flat earth? No way... that's even more crazy than tower-7 was fires. A conspiracy going back hundreds of years across multiple religions and hundreds of countries that involves malevolent masters putting a dome over the flat earth and tricking everyone into thinking it's round? Give me a break. That's just retarded.
Is NASA lying about what they've done and what they continue to do? Of course. An open-minded examination of the moon landings demonstrates that. I don't believe much of what NASA says. But Round Earth is not a Rothschild banking Illuminati conspiracy... It's an emerging understanding that's happened across many religions and cultural groups many times over. It's observably true. It's obvious to anyone with the gumption to prove it to themselves.
So I'm pretty clearly in the Round Earth camp. But fuck nasa...
Michio Kaku said deduction is a mind f*c*.
If you can film something 150 with a thousand 0 of light years far far away you are still filming from a set point in the center... :)
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Craig Murray , that was some good info mate. If u see the docu it all starts from when God said on to him "Can you count the stars" haha... and that when on to round , flat or what ever Earth :) and NASA of course.
Just found a new copy of this must see documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh98tg6neLU
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As i said... wholes to other worlds are a step away.
#lookingleftandrightisthecurve #circumference :D
There is no proof the world is flat but I love how flat earthers crush NASA and the fake moon landings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGl8I3l-5ac&sns=em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvs_gTrP3wg
the circumference is the curve :)
You're the man Eddie! We are all free to think! People not only entertain the idea on a vast social level but they then watch people lie to children about a fat man in the North Pole who is pulled in the air by reindeer but those same people become almost irrationally aggressive when you question if they actually know why they believe what they do about their existence. Think for yourselves!
Eddie, there is no center of the universe as far as anyone competent can tell. In physics, you can call anything you want the "center of the universe," and often we solve problems assuming the Earth is the center of the universe. And by "solving problems," I mean: determining what the outcome will be before it happens.
Long range snipers solve a physics problem every time they make a shot, and the bullet lands where they want it to land, not just because of their shooting skill, but their ability to take into account the variables necessary to put a bullet where you want it. You should ask Tim Kennedy (or any other trained sniper) what he needs to take into account when making the longest shots he's capable of, and see if he thinks the Earth is flat and the center of the universe.
Throughout human history, astronomers have looked at the night sky and wrote down what they saw. Everyone who has ever done this saw basically the same thing: a backdrop of tiny lights that seem randomly distributed throughout the sky with one long streak where the lights are more concentrated (we now know this to be the milky way galaxy that we are a part of). Anyone who has looked at the night sky for long stretches of time, will also sometimes see brighter lights that move around the night sky in a very different way from the background (we now know these lights to be other planets; on the right nights you can see Mars or Venus very easily without a telescope). When you try to describe (mathematically) the motion of the other planets with the view that the Earth is the center of the universe, it is an incredibly difficult problem to solve because from our perspective, the planets are flying around in crazy looping patterns, but if we approach the problem as the sun being the center of the universe, it is very easily shown how to predict the motion of the other planets.
Galilean relativity is a tool people can use to change what you consider the center of the universe to be. However, Einstein showed there is more you need to take into account when considering really fast things. General Relativity allows you ultimate power in choosing a center of the universe and being able to predict an outcome. Galilean relativity still works, but it starts to deviate from reality when speeds approach the speed of light.
Part of what someone has to do when they solve physics problems is to choose a center of the universe which makes the problem easy to solve. However, when you choose a "reference frame" (as it's called) where the Earth is flat, the force of gravity is down, and it is the center of the universe, you can solve many simple high school level physics problems, like predicting where a marble will land on the floor if you roll it off a small ramp fashioned onto a table. However, since planets are spherical, spin on an axis, and are being hurled around the sun, when predicting the motion of a bullet being shot over long distances, it is crucial to take into account the fact that the earth is a sphere spinning and flying through space.
You can always take these details into account, even when solving simple problems like marbles rolling down ramps, but when things are moving relatively slow, the effects of the Earth being a planet, which goes around a star, are so minuscule you can't discern the difference without extremely advanced precision when measuring the actual outcomes.
Physics has a long rich history of developing theories and models to predict outcomes and people going out and doing experiments to see whether or not the models really predict outcomes before they happen. Most physicists are contrarians who are trying to find things wrong with our current understanding of physics. What we have today in 2017 has been refined over hundreds of years, so we've got a pretty solid lock on understanding a lot of things. Physics isn't a complete body of knowledge yet, and we don't know everything, but we know some things! ;)
Next time you're on a mountain at night, just look up.
I find it insanely comical that the ancient Greeks were able to determine things like the Earth being spherical by sticking sticks into the ground in different locations and observing the shadows, or people in the 18'th century by using circumnavigation...and today it's 2017....All the information we have via the internet, and all the evidence we have from the very cradle of human civilization up until this very day concerning a variety of topics is being literally spit upon by people with no scientific background who want to sound intelligent. At first, when I heard colleagues at the university talking about people actually believing the Earth is flat or stuff like this in 2017, my first thought was: "They must have been trolled". It's literally impossible. But, Einstein's theory proves itself right yet again, human stupidity really is infinite.
Giordano Bruno was willing to burn for the sake of science. Literally, the dude burned on a stake for his beliefs which were against the cosmological beliefs of the medieval catholic church. Then we have Galileo who was put on trial for his research.
And today, where you have evidence of the Earth being round taken as pictures from orbit...And even if you believe they are "fake", you can do a number of experiments to see it with your own eyes. Like literally 6'th grade physics class experiments in any country that has a working educational system. You can see with your own eyes that the moon is round. That the son is round. But the Earth is a fucking space frisbee? With all the information and research available to us, people have become so arrogant and sure of their opinion after only a few minutes of research, that the 21. Century is probably home to one of the dumbest populations of man ever recorded in the history of our race.
I do not wish to insult anyone, opinions are meant to be challenged and argued upon, but one thing that unfortunately can't be argued or disputed are facts. These "documentaries" belong in the comedy genre. (Or perhaps horror?)
Eddie Bravo ambushed on Inforwars about the flat earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOynKF4EYTk
I thought the flat earth was stupid and would not even look into it. I've watched Eric Dubay's videos and now I have questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGl8I3l-5ac
According to science the curvature of the earth is 8" x mile squared which means something 6 miles away would be 24 feet below the horizon but when you test this with a telescope the object 6 miles away can clearly be seen proving there is no curvature to the earth.
Here it is again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMNfa1NRnvE
Infowars is pulling a Jon Jones by posting video and then taking it down. Trolls ! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9GHuA6S9zg