Hi, I wanted to add a kicking martial art system to my Jiu Jitsu and was wondering what would be the best martial arts for kicking?
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Hi, I wanted to add a kicking martial art system to my Jiu Jitsu and was wondering what would be the best martial arts for kicking?
Muay Thai in my opinion is by far the best.
I agree, most technical and powerfull kicks. Also hands, elbows and knees, and the clinch game translates perfectly to grappling.
Ive just started training but i have been watching the UFC for a while and most champs primarily use Muay Thai, Bone Jones and Mighty Mouse like to use it. Seems like the best fighters like to use that style better.
Punching martial arts = Boxing
Kicking martial arts = Taekwondo
watching Rickson Gracie's oldschool matches should be helpful. Front kicking with a good base and closing the distance is a great kicking set up for jj.
Edit:I didnt see that you are asking for a martial art. Of course it is muay thai. There is no rival art in striking of it.
Its Taekwondo too flashy which could leave you open for hits?
Taekwondo depends on the gym you go to, some of the gyms (like every martial art) are watered down and you might not be getting the best most realistic instruction.
I think Muay Thai but with emphasis on boxing too, but dabble in other arts, see how capoeira guys throw certain kicks depending on their footwork, how karate point based guys control distance, etc. Don't get too caught up in one style, I liked MMA because it gave me the freedom to experiment and they didn't just try to fit me into a specific mould. Over time I've seen muay thai guys come visit who have nasty kicks but couldn't box, boxers who get shut down with a leg kick, capoeira guys who have a completely different rhythm to try read and so on. Same with 10th Planet/Jeet Kune Do, take whats useful, discard what is not. Different parts of different styles will only enhance your jiu jitsu. Being so deadly on the ground gives you the confidence to throw high kicks because if you get taken down mid-kick, they just saved you all the energy needed to score a takedown. Having solid wrestling, faking a shot can set up some nasty uppercuts or other strikes. I believe doing karate at a young age (point based kenpo) helped with my distance management because you want to hit them in the body/head and get the fuck out of there before they hit you so you score that point.
My opinion, as a long time JKD/10th Planet guy, is a combo of Muay Thai and Savate.
Nice, im gonna look into Savate.
A taekwondo and Muay Thai mix is the best imo.
No love for Kyokushin? :(
Can you give your reasoning please Eddie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
I'm not Eddie, but it's good advice. You get a huge variety of kicks out of TKD that you can use to surprise people, although you have to contend with the kata (they call them poomsae, I think) and (relatively) light contact. Muai Thai is going to give you the adjustments you need to be a good full contact striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by gpham
Before someone from TKD jumps in and goes "no, the poomsae are super important" let me say beforehand that I sortof agree - they help you develop good balance, body control, and proprioception, but the actual positions you get into and their memorization don't help much in a match.
Takeda , Kozo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ43fahw93c
He did ONLY right straight/ left hook , left hook/ right straight & low kicks.
The best to ever do it although there where others Zak I think from the first contender Asia.
From Scotland i think he was.
Muay Thai has the most effective knees, elbows, leg and head kicks plus the plum clinch. TKD has the most effective spinning kicks like wheel kicks and turning side kicks. Throw in western boxing and its a rapQuote:
Originally Posted by gpham
In my opinion start out with Taekwondo so you get used to the fluidity of the weird movements (mainly unorthodox kicks), as well as the speed of Taekwondo; not the somewhat grounded stance of Muay Thai; then add Muay Thai to it so you can work knees low kicks and full on power.
https://instagram.com/p/kwzLzUGBjP/
Here’s my first amateur MMA fight; i was a Taekwondo black belt by then.
Hahahaha! They hardly ever see it coming at that level. Great advice by the way!
I would say, if you're already a full blown adult with no taekwondo background, you might as well just do surface taekwondo because there's almost no way you'll ever become very good and proficient at it. It requires such suppleness and nimbleness that you possess as a kid and carry all the way. Here's my first ever cross training with kickboxers as a blue belt. The first guy was the boxing coach. He used to be a kickboxer. The second guy was the full contact muay thai/kickboxer coach This was after a 3hr class, I was exhausted. And found it hard to control the kicks. I've also never trained intense class for that long before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS8pgyk4MAs
This sounds like your Dan Inosanto days, maestro. I always said you were the Bruce Lee of Jiu Jitsu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
TKD is superior to any other art, when it comes to strictly kicking.
The guy in the left bottom corner looks like a young gary dell'abate.Quote:
Originally Posted by NelsonLucca