By giving him a black belt after submitting a boxer with 6 months of training.
What the fuck?
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By giving him a black belt after submitting a boxer with 6 months of training.
What the fuck?
yehh but he was probably going to get it anyway and they thought it was a good time!
I think it was a joke. Who is this Neil Meanson guy anyway all I have seen is that he trained under Gene Lebell and Gokor, does that mean Randy is black belt in Judo lol it had to be a joke.
Yeah, SPOILERS, don't people learn?
best figt of the night...im so glad randy submitted him instead of just beating him down...super fight
Wrestlers don't need gi or belts. He got a belt in catch wrestling. Let there be No Belts in wrestling ever!
Can't be a BB in Judo, there are specific tests that require specific techniques, history, knowledge and points from competition, oh yeah....and the gi. Neil was busted awhile ago for calling everything Jiu Jitsu, then saying I never said BJJ, then switched it up and started calling it Catch.
Like Daniel said...wtf he submitted a fucking Boxer and "that" of all things got him his BB? Does that make Horwich a 2nd or 3rd degree Blackbelt for submitting a really good BJJ Blackbelt?
He does have a black belt under Karo Parisyan.
Sounds like a good idea... no-gi grapplers getting belt rankings. What's not to like? Besides, Randy is a black belt in wrestling anyway.
I a black belt in what is the question. Maybe there is a new category instructors are recognizing. Grappling for mma. Or maybe just grappling period. Like, if you have reached a level of any particular style that makes you competitive at the highest level of grappling and are on tv alot and just won by using grappling on a main card in a ppv then... I'm just thinkin outloud.
i have a black belt on JOE son DO
and SAFTA
sounds like a feel good program so everyone gets a belt whether they worked "hard" for it or not..."oh little timmy touched his big toe to his ass,,he deserves a stripe"! sounds very MCDOJO
I guess it would be Judo, but he didn't really make it clear.
I am not disputing that he is probably a good maybe great grappler, probably has a lot to teach people, which is why he is starting his own belting system for his grappling system, but why...why why why give Randy his black belt after a win in the UFC when no one knows what the hell your doing and not really who you are?
He should have kept this to the locker room or back at XtremeCouture.
Well since he doesn't train with the gi, it can't be Judo, and there are specific requirnments for the national governing bodies for Judo.
I'm not saying the guy does or doesn't have legit grappling skills. But I agree completely with you Daniel, it was a total marketing ploy that cheapend a win for Randy.
Thats confidence though, the guy had to be sitting there with the belt ready to go.
Seems like he just thought Randy deserves a belt. Randy has beat black belts and is an amazing grappler.
I think some guys just say, "Hey, I'm a black belt, and I can't do shit to him. So he clearly must be a black belt". You saw how he subbed Toney. A world champion non-grappler. He could also probably sub Micheal Phelps or Tiger Woods. You gotta respect that.
Youz know I'm playin. right?
i just blew away about four watermelons with a 12g..i think im now a blackbelt in zombie fighting..
sure randys beaten blackbelts in MMA..he was allowed to strike.randy has to my knowledge never competed in a submission only event..
I fail to see your point. Gotta say somethin though
So randy got ranked in No-Gi grappling?
He did go to a Draw with Jacare that's pretty impressive :)
but he was also strikeing him...how well would randy do in a strictly grappleing event??????????
tim your the muay thai guy,,you would have a way better chance then i
It was strictly grappling..
Hmmm... I'm gonna use patches like Bruce Leroy's teacher.
Black Belt is supposed to be a definition in technical mastery. Cut and dry... you should get a black belt when you technique is shit hot, you have put your pride/ego/ability on the line in competition and earned it. Not just because you are difficult to tap out. Randy has done part of that, put it on the line (in MMA). Congrats on the win.
not everyone is meant to be a jiu jitsu black belt and there is no shame in that.
^^^Well said good sir!!!!!
Thank you Daniel for posting this, spot on, When has randy's guard been tested, in any format ? when I fell in love with jiu jitsu it was " All " of jiujitsu not " Half " or a " Part " of it, Traditional, 10th Planet, All of it. It is my understanding that to even be close to the " Brown Belt Level " you must have a "Complete Game" with no " Holes " and focus on " Polishing Up " That also meens Kills from your guard. Does Randy have any Kills from his guard ? This is not Randys fault. There are Purple & Brown Belts with " Lethal Guards " and anyone at that level knows the time and work it takes to develope a " Complete Game " We used to see this kind of shit in the early years, " Cracker Jack Box " Black belts to promote "MMA" schools with jiujitsu. But those of us who " Piss " & "Shit " jits know that giving belts out like " Candy " not only hurts You, Your Student, but Jiu jitsu as a Whole, and in my opinion is kind of Disrespectful to the art.
still no answer to what he recived a black belt in, just speculation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_q4Yf0SdAM
Randy vs Jacare in submission grappling match! This was strictly a grappling event!
Damm !!! Tim are you serious, A black belt in Jits in just "six weeks" what happens when thease guys face High Level Purples and get " Ran Through " Me personaly, I wouldn't even accept a belt if I didn't know within that I'm on the level. This type of shit shows that a lot of people don't take pride in there jiu jitsu.
its just unfortunate the problem is there are many people laying claim to having a Black belt in something just to promote MMA, my first instructor Carmine Zocchi is a prime example, claiming to have a black belt but never recieving one and just kind helping the rest of the world by continuing with that cycle since hes promoting people who arent really ranked cause hes not really a black belt.
Now Neil Meanson i dont know what his deal is but it would have been one thing if Randy went into a fight with a world class grappler and tapped him out another to go in with James tony and do what we all knew he would take him down to where hes uncomfortable.
Now lets be real randy is a world class grappler and might even deserve a high ranking in BJJ or Grappling but that was not the time to rank him in public...
no doubt, Dennis What would a guy like Marcelo Garcia, or Rubens Cobrinha, say about that belt ? Would they laugh ? I think Marcelo, Rubens , the Mendes Bros, Eddie, Fernando terre, Rickson, All the people I look up to in jiu jitsu, I they would laugh there ass off at that belt, & Grand Master Helio would demote randy & his instructor to White Belt.
Because you asked I asked and Marcelo said, they gave him a black belt in what? I said I don't know and he just shurgged his shoulders