Originally Posted by
Brian Debes
There are a bunch of problems that can come up with this position and you have to learn to trouble shoot them all. I never want to "sell out" at any point because its supposed to be a control position. Shortly after this position got its name (I had already been using it for about 6.5 years at that time) someone informed me when I posted a video about that game that it was "Ludicrous" that someone could escape the newly named dead orchard, so my in depth trouble shooting tips were pointless. Without seeing exactly what you did, I can comment in much detail, but I'm guessing you might not have been crunched in close to him enough while finishing or let go of too much control. You said you learned it from Nathan. Like in person? If so you probably were taught some specific trouble shooting, if not, most people are trying to just slap a two arm triangle on and they wonder what happened when it messes up. And yeah, that will still work allot of the time, especially if your not super weak.