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    Muddy waters getting stuck.

    I can't hit muddy waters, i get stacked when i have chill dog and they place the the non-trapped arm on the mat preventing the double bagger. This leaves me to either battle for the triangle or go for the omoplata, neither of those are bad options but i want to work on my muddy water/dead orchard.

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    Try crackhead and invisible bag then invisible crackhead zombie the arm then go to muddy waters from invisible collar. Ya follow?
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    well zombieing the arm isn't the problem i have chill dog but my left leg can't really do much because they base out with the opposite arm. if they have the arm on me i can do it.

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    Im talking about taking a different path to get to muddy waters
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    i see what you're saying now

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    Threaten with the basic path. Muddy waters is nice because its from the opposite angle than the basic path. Therefore, if the ruin your angle for basic path, they handed you the angle needed for muddy waters. Maybe try out the brackish waters series.

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    I'd go Pyramid. Meat bag if you want to be fancy. Crush them enough with that and they'll quit doing it and you can work other things. Its hard to force a move you want to work on sometimes when people are insisting on giving you a gift instead. Force to hard and you may even be getting bad reps... Pyramid to triangle and then tell them what they did wrong. Build better training partners. That's what I'd do and did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Debes View Post
    I'd go Pyramid. Meat bag if you want to be fancy. Crush them enough with that and they'll quit doing it and you can work other things. Its hard to force a move you want to work on sometimes when people are insisting on giving you a gift instead. Force to hard and you may even be getting bad reps... Pyramid to triangle and then tell them what they did wrong. Build better training partners. That's what I'd do and did.
    Thanks so much, i think your right i want to work muddy so bad that i'm forcing it.

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    Getting to muddy waters from IC is the best way. I do that multiple times most nights I roll, it's my main path now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo View Post
    Getting to muddy waters from IC is the best way. I do that multiple times most nights I roll, it's my main path now
    Pump from Invisible Collar is way, way easier!

    Also, if you are in Chill Dog and he has the opposite hand on the mat, he is asking for a Sorcerer. He's blocking Muddy Waters.
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