Mount with feet on hips: Monkey Mount? Something else?

[Joshua Jarboe]

This thread comes at a perfect time. I just started toying around with vegan mount after watching bodycomb's instructional. It really helps with not letting your opponent re guard, but what are some other pros and cons to vegan mount/monkey mount? (I know they're slightly different)

Probably silly of me to weigh in at all, but my professor gave me some feedback on what he liked, so I'll venture to try to remember some of it.

* You can put quite a bit of pressure, so they feel they have to move.
* But it's difficult for them to move. They can't easily bump you: you're sensing and checking their hips. They can't easily reclaim half guard.
* The combination between feeling pressured, squeezed, claustrophic and beaten and the inability to alleviate it should cook your opponent. (I know it does me)
* The thing they have remaining to get into the game is their arm. They can reach down to try to get their arm under one of your legs. But this seems predictable and seems to invite a mounted triangle. (Maybe someone smarter than me can validate or falsify my theory that reaching your arm down like that could subject it to arm attacks, isolates their other arm and leaves their neck open to chokes).
Jiu Jitsu Unleashed shows an armbar from this position that looks devastating and potentially hard to stop. I want to try it.

Ok, someone smart should talk now.

But hey, do you have a link?

[ml82]

Thanks for the response. For vegan mount, I don't think you're adding more pressure than regular mount because your hips aren't smashing down on the opponent's.

I think bodycomb uses it because he said it's easier to knee ride someone and to protect your legs from the opponent re guarding, I *think* that's what he said. I don't have a link but I can try to upload that bit tonight when I get home.

[Joshua Jarboe]

Thanks for the response. For vegan mount, I don't think you're adding more pressure than regular mount because your hips aren't smashing down on the opponent's.

I think bodycomb uses it because he said it's easier to knee ride someone and to protect your legs from the opponent re guarding, I *think* that's what he said. I don't have a link but I can try to upload that bit tonight when I get home.

Understood.

But do you have a link to the bodycomb thing?