Leg lock help

[John Reinesch]

I've been having trouble in Ashi and outside Ashi with bigger or stronger guys getting up on top (usually they grab my head as well) and then smashing me. In outside Ashi the end up on top in a leg drag position.

Could anyone help me with a counter to this? Or if it sounds like I'm doing something wrong with the quick description I gave, any tips that would help me would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I described it well enough. Thanks in advance!

[Royce Kim]

Skip to 2:18 and just copy that.

[Keith Kavanagh]

From DOA, if they start to build a base to work towards that leg drag type position, I usually make sure both of my arms shoot under the arm he's trying to wrap your head with, making sure all your limbs are behind that arm and then use them in a windmill type motion to towards their head. Helps throw them off balance and if you can keep their knee bent with a good control of the heel, you can turn it to the outside for a kneebar or honey hole entry. Bigger guys will be harder to get over but it helps get that fuck tonne of weight off of you.

[Brent Smith]

If they're grabbing your head in Ashi or DOA its not enough for them to stop the heel hook especially if you're finishing it like Eddie Cummings does. There is a couple things you can do if they start to stack you in DOA but that is a real defense. The leg you're attacking will be bent when they work up to their base. Grab their pull it towards you like you're playing a slot machine. That will disrupt their base and you can hit a clean kneebar.

[Cora Sek]

I've been having trouble in Ashi and outside Ashi with bigger or stronger guys getting up on top (usually they grab my head as well) and then smashing me. In outside Ashi the end up on top in a leg drag position.

Could anyone help me with a counter to this? Or if it sounds like I'm doing something wrong with the quick description I gave, any tips that would help me would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I described it well enough. Thanks in advance!

Depends on what kind of grip you have. If you're going for a heel hook or a straight ankle lock. ??

[scottross]

Your legs are stronger than their arms. The leg that hooks over the hip can be used to push your opponent back down as they try to sit up - and when you make that push, use the force to add a little zest to your finish.

[Andrew Alexander]

Your legs are stronger than their arms. The leg that hooks over the hip can be used to push your opponent back down as they try to sit up - and when you make that push, use the force to add a little zest to your finish.

This ^ 100%

[John Reinesch]

Your legs are stronger than their arms. The leg that hooks over the hip can be used to push your opponent back down as they try to sit up - and when you make that push, use the force to add a little zest to your finish.

Thank you everyone for contributing, it's all been helping me out already.

Is there anything specific you do from the basic Ashi position (when attacking an ankle lock or heel hook even) to keep them from coming up on top and smashing? Sometimes I'll go to x-guard if they stand up and don't pressure me 100% but is there a way I can keep them from even coming up at all? Would it be the same concept of using my foot to push them back down but with my bottom foot that's on their hip?

[JorgenBore]

Check out the newest MTS, and Phill Schwartz part at about 28 minutes in.

[scottross]

[QUOTE=John Reinesch;256103]Thank you everyone for contributing, it's all been helping me out already.

Is there anything specific you do from the basic Ashi position (when attacking an ankle lock or heel hook even) to keep them from coming up on top and smashing? /QUOTE]

Captain Morgan works extremely well for this, that may be the Phil Schwartz technique that JorgenBore is talking about.

Also, if you are in regular ashi you can drive your knee forward into their chest - that will stop them from coming up.

Or you can use the foot from the outside leg to drive them back down. If they are trying to come up, I like my foot to be aligned with the sternum - the toes pointed up and I kick them back down. I use that kick to launch into the finish for the straight ankle. There should be tension in the foot already, so you are ready to kick if they come up - but if you kick before they come up, it's easy for them to push your foot off. So save that for when they actually make their move.

Coming up on top of someone trying to do a heel hook is a mistake - if they know how to heel hook properly. When you roll up to the knee on the leg being attacked, you turn your heel up - making it easier to land the heel hook. I hope that helps.