Massive trouble from mount to standard armbar

[Clinton lawrence]

i dont know what i'm doing wrong but i cant seem to get any love from the standard arm bar from mount in reguards to the fact i either land with my arse to far away from his shoulder so i have to shuffle up and if the guy is quicker them me he escapes or i cant seem to balance myself long enough to bring my leg all around the guys head as i'm spinning any tips or advise would be great cheers

[Will Thaxton]

I would say try just securing deep hook and transition to spiderweb. Then go from there.

[Bill Keeling]

This is actually a common problem. let me try to give you step by step.
1. let's say they push up on you and give you the opp. and you attack their left arm.
2. first place both hands on their chest, one of your arms going over the arm your attacking, and the other one under.
3. lean forward a little so that your weight is slightly on your opp chest, then swing your leg around (keeping tight). This is a drill to help you feel the mechanics. drill each side 10 times, then you will start to get it down. Then you can start adding details that increase your pecentages. (ie; turning their head away as you transition, locking your feet under the opposite shoulder, etc...)
Feel free to hit me up anytime!

[Jay Chow]

Are you going to S-Mount first? This is important. Grab the shoulder, go to S-Mount, keep your knees pinched tight, grab the leg, and swing the leg around when you fall back

[Bill Keeling]

JC, actually you should trans the leg before you fall back, as it keeps it tighter, and prevents the escape, thereby increasing your percentages. But the q pertained to standard mount. S-mount is the next progression

[Clinton lawrence]

jay chow standard mount son i aint no blue belt yet sir tsk s mounting me

[Scott Philips]

I'm no "blue belt" either but if I want to increase my armbar percentages from mount I transition to s-mount as well. Either s-mount or bait a bustamonte (swim move from a bridge mount escape).

[bobby rivers]

Standard mount armbar is low percentage and prob why your having problems. Your square with them. You have to trap them first, s-mount. Its all about the gansta lean mount principle and angles, just like most attacks.

It's not all one motion and it starts by beating his elbow with your knee(there are lots of trix for this). Then drive that knee up past his head and his elbow is between your hips. You should be almost 90% and controlling the far arm. Then s-mount(bow tie) to spider web.

If someone told you this is to advanced to learn they lied. If you dont think your ready to learn it your wrong. This is just my opinion. good luck.

[leach_jeffrey]

S-mount will certainly make this easier for you. It's not an 'advanced' thing.

Also, always get the legs in position before you fall back. If you fall back before you've swung the leg over, they'll escape on you much more often. If you have a good S-mount, you won't need to rush.

Here is a link to a video that shows the s-mount. I almost gave up on this video because I didn't like they way he explained it until he gave the 'modification' at 1:50. I'd say that the modification is the way you'd want to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVK_0ZoLEO0

[AJ Camacho]

In my opinion the standard mounted arm bar, at lower levels, is an explosive move that must be done faster than your opponent can pull his elbow in. This is because at lower levels, people lack the technique to keep their body tight enough to trap their opponent's tricep, so execution relies on speed. As you get better in live rolling, you'll notice that you actually perform the move slower but tighter, which naturally develops into an S-mount control position before hitting the arm bar.

There's a reason why the mounted arm bar is a "basic" move and it's not because it's easy. It's basic because it contains multiple mechanics (timing, trapping the arm, pivoting off their chest, securing the arm bar position) that will take forever to master. De-constructing the move into multiple steps and analyzing it will yield key observations such as learning to control and isolate the shoulder during the transition, how to pin them during the rotation, and why a deep arm hook works better than a simple elbow trap (when fighting an opponent who knows how to defend properly)... etc.

So try slowing it down when you drill it and feel out each mechanic. Understand the S-Mount, because you are passing through it anyways even though you don't know it.