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It's been awhile, but I remember reading Judo Gene Lebell's book. He talked about how the Judo association took Judo from legit martial art to obscure sport, and how the association black listed him because of his incorporation of catch wrestling techniques (probably among other things from what I've heard about Gene :) ). I think its natural to defer to an association, in the U.S. the prestige of an association is synonymous with high achievement (i.e. the NBA and NFL), but I think there should be more caution in the martial arts. I am certainly not trying to take the wind out of anyone's sail who has an ibjj tournament coming up, i'm still really proud of my 3rd place medal at pan ams (as a white belt :)) but I think an honest discussion is a healthy thing. From the letter I posted, it seems like things are far from a healthy discussion and more of a one way street.

I won't compete in ibjjf competition. It's just too much to me and a lot in order to get certified through ibjjf etc. it just isn't worth it to me. They do run a good tournament though.

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Originally Posted by VIVIANO

It's been awhile, but I remember reading Judo Gene Lebell's book. He talked about how the Judo association took Judo from legit martial art to obscure sport, and how the association black listed him because of his incorporation of catch wrestling techniques (probably among other things from what I've heard about Gene :) ). I think its natural to defer to an association, in the U.S. the prestige of an association is synonymous with high achievement (i.e. the NBA and NFL), but I think there should be more caution in the martial arts. I am certainly not trying to take the wind out of anyone's sail who has an ibjj tournament coming up, i'm still really proud of my 3rd place medal at pan ams (as a white belt :)) but I think an honest discussion is a healthy thing. From the letter I posted, it seems like things are far from a healthy discussion and more of a one way street.

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The IJF has ruined Judo and continues to ruin it and even more sad the IOC is endorsing and supporting their changes. I gave up on the idea of returning to Judo when they outlawed grabbing the legs. They are limiting the art and Judo is a beautiful sport and martial art before the IJF took control. Gene Lebell was completely correct in trying to grow the art and it sucks that is the hand he was delt.

True.....

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Originally Posted by Kyle Spalla

The IJF has ruined Judo and continues to ruin it and even more sad the IOC is endorsing and supporting their changes. I gave up on the idea of returning to Judo when they outlawed grabbing the legs. They are limiting the art and Judo is a beautiful sport and martial art before the IJF took control. Gene Lebell was completely correct in trying to grow the art and it sucks that is the hand he was delt.

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+1, I Love judo but one thing i hate about some judo gyms or practitioners is that once a technique becomes illegal in competition we're not going to bother learning or teaching them anymore.

BJJ has become a traditional martial art...

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Your conduct is out of line LOL. Bringing water to the mat. WOW I cant wait to get thrown out of the IBJJF. John and I already have an awesome plan to go it in style if need be. :)

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Originally Posted by Josh Passini

Your conduct is out of line LOL. Bringing water to the mat. WOW I cant wait to get thrown out of the IBJJF. John and I already have an awesome plan to go it in style if need be. :)

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Dear God! This is gonna be an epic kick out :-).

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