Having trouble locking in the epstecutioner

While rolling with a guy on my last practice, I got a north south choke but couldn't quite sinch (Is that a word?) it in. I happened to watch Scott Epstein's moves on video a few days before, and so I went for the epstecutioner.

My trouble was with the leg that goes over and locks the other guy's leg, just before I start yanking back. I couldn't manage to hook my leg in, it was hard to reach and the other guy just moved it aside and I didn't get the leverage. Ended up mounting, but I wonder what I was doing wrong or how to go around that problem.

Any insights or advice would be welcome :)

How was he able to block your hook and move it aside? Did you have him propped up on your inside leg?

I just want to say that I had no idea this nice even existed till I saw this post. My north south choke sucks. Thank you for upping my north south game.

Been thinking about it more, and of you can keep control of the arm after taking mount, there may be some nice set ups for triangles.I'm gonna try and see if there is anything there next time I get to drill.

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Originally Posted by Chad Clark

How was he able to block your hook and move it aside? Did you have him propped up on your inside leg?

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I might've not propped him deep enough, but he also had his legs together so I couldn't get a hook, I just placed my leg on top of his and he moved it aside with his other arm I think.

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Originally Posted by Chad Clark

Been thinking about it more, and of you can keep control of the arm after taking mount, there may be some nice set ups for triangles.I'm gonna try and see if there is anything there next time I get to drill.

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There could be. I happened to have his trapped arm near my head when I mounted and so ended with an arm triangle (on the same side the epstecutioner was supposed to be). But I still wonder how to make it work when he keeps his legs together. Might it be possible to help prop them open with my under leg? I don't think it'll work when the opponent is longer than you though.

grammar police coming!!!! lol its cinch not sinch. but all good. :D

Have you watched this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zPaG--0tJM

The epsticutioner is mad legit, perfect option for when dude escapes the ns going away :)

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Originally Posted by Eli

While rolling with a guy on my last practice, I got a north south choke but couldn't quite sinch (Is that a word?) it in. I happened to watch Scott Epstein's moves on video a few days before, and so I went for the epstecutioner.

My trouble was with the leg that goes over and locks the other guy's leg, just before I start yanking back. I couldn't manage to hook my leg in, it was hard to reach and the other guy just moved it aside and I didn't get the leverage. Ended up mounting, but I wonder what I was doing wrong or how to go around that problem.

Any insights or advice would be welcome :)

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Troubleshooting questions:

1) Do you have a legitimate hold on his head and neck? If you don't have a firm and legitimate north-south lock on his head, you might be giving him too much room to flail around.

2) Are you lifting him enough? Are you completely turning him over to his side with your non-choking arm (you can lift him by the shoulder or shoulder blade) so that you can slide your bottom leg in? You need to make sure that you're pretty much kneeing him in the small of his back so that when you hook his leg, he's fully lifted onto you.

I feel like the majority of issues with the Epstecutioner comes from not controlling the person's head enough/giving them too much movement and not digging that bottom knee deep enough to lift the person to get leverage. And if they keep scooting away from you, you always have the option to finish the north-south--they're making it easier for you at that point.

How do you get the move if the opponent keeps his leg together (when propped to his side) so you can't hook just one leg?