Went to my first Judo class

Went so bad. Was the dummy for the session and wanted me to escape form side and scalf control and no one else could escape apart form me even put on a twister and knew it was illegal but a good escape from scalf hold. Thought the session was good but found some jujitsu guys in their and going to train in a few days. Going to try and enter some tournaments and try and set up a hot box in London. Anyone in London interested in training give us a pm.

I heard Judo, especially when training in the beginner's classes is ultra rough on the body, even more so than wrestling. Something about white belts hip throwing you and not being able to control it fully yet may be the culprit.

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Originally Posted by ChristopherBraybrook

Went so bad. Was the dummy for the session and wanted me to escape form side and scalf control and no one else could escape apart form me even put on a twister and knew it was illegal but a good escape from scalf hold. Thought the session was good but found some jujitsu guys in their and going to train in a few days. Going to try and enter some tournaments and try and set up a hot box in London. Anyone in London interested in training give us a pm.

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With all due respect, if I went to a new martial art and someone asked me to escape a position, I'd say, "I'm new and I don't know how to escape can you please show me how." I'd have no interest in using my Jiu Jitsu skills in a Judo class. I'd be there to learn Judo, plain and simple.

In my years of BJJ training I've seen a ton of wrestlers come in and tap people (me included) using wrestling techniques. Generally they use a basic submission like the Americana and they are content to do it over and over to ensure they "win" the match. I assume they go back to their wrestling buddies and brag how they went over to the BJJ school and tapped the purple belts or whatever... Problem is, they aren't learning anything. I've had wrestlers tap me over and over and at the end of the session they've learned nothing about BJJ. It's a total waste of time for both of us and I don't understand what brought them into the school in the first place. If you're going to come to the school to say you tapped Ric with your wrestling moves, go right ahead but it sounds like a big waste of time when you could have instead come to the school and learned some actual BJJ techniques to add to your game.

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Originally Posted by ChristopherBraybrook

Went so bad. Was the dummy for the session and wanted me to escape form side and scalf control and no one else could escape apart form me even put on a twister and knew it was illegal but a good escape from scalf hold. Thought the session was good but found some jujitsu guys in their and going to train in a few days. Going to try and enter some tournaments and try and set up a hot box in London. Anyone in London interested in training give us a pm.

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Did you make this story up? Most Judo Schools concentrate on throws! Most first classes in Judo is learning to break fall!

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Originally Posted by Ric

If you're going to come to the school to say you tapped Ric with your wrestling moves, go right ahead but it sounds like a big waste of time when you could have instead come to the school and learned some actual BJJ techniques to add to your game.

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I tapped Ric with my Squirrel Style Kung Fu =D. No seriously though, I agree 100%. I'm not getting smashed by wrestlers like I used to, but if they go gorilla strength on me, they usually get the Americana, and I don't mind. It puts time pressure on me to escape side control.

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Originally Posted by Ric

With all due respect, if I went to a new martial art and someone asked me to escape a position, I'd say, "I'm new and I don't know how to escape can you please show me how." I'd have no interest in using my Jiu Jitsu skills in a Judo class. I'd be there to learn Judo, plain and simple.

In my years of BJJ training I've seen a ton of wrestlers come in and tap people (me included) using wrestling techniques. Generally they use a basic submission like the Americana and they are content to do it over and over to ensure they "win" the match. I assume they go back to their wrestling buddies and brag how they went over to the BJJ school and tapped the purple belts or whatever... Problem is, they aren't learning anything. I've had wrestlers tap me over and over and at the end of the session they've learned nothing about BJJ. It's a total waste of time for both of us and I don't understand what brought them into the school in the first place. If you're going to come to the school to say you tapped Ric with your wrestling moves, go right ahead but it sounds like a big waste of time when you could have instead come to the school and learned some actual BJJ techniques to add to your game.

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I agree for the most part but due respect and all, wouldn't rolling with a wrestler be a good opportunity to train defense against wrestling-style subs? I mean if you get 20 other rolling partners can't americana you, but a wrestler comes along and exposes a hole in your game, wouldn't that that be a good time to train defense against wrestling based opponents, or at least try and figure out what he's doing differently, and address it? Even if it is an americana... it's certainly different in it's application than the other ones if he's the only white belt that can pull it off on you.

And I suppose you could go to a highschool and train wrestling there, but considering Rickson Sub'd several olympic wrestlers, you shouldn't need to go to a college or highschool to figure out how to defend against wrestlers (although I'm sure it would help).

That's just my humble 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by Ric

In my years of BJJ training I've seen a ton of wrestlers come in and tap people (me included) using wrestling techniques. Generally they use a basic submission like the Americana and they are content to do it over and over to ensure they "win" the match. I assume they go back to their wrestling buddies and brag how they went over to the BJJ school and tapped the purple belts or whatever... Problem is, they aren't learning anything. I've had wrestlers tap me over and over and at the end of the session they've learned nothing about BJJ. It's a total waste of time for both of us and I don't understand what brought them into the school in the first place. If you're going to come to the school to say you tapped Ric with your wrestling moves, go right ahead but it sounds like a big waste of time when you could have instead come to the school and learned some actual BJJ techniques to add to your game.

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You sound a little jaded bromigo, If a Wrestler came in and taped me over and over again with "basic" moves, I wouldn't be mad at the wrestler, I'd be happy he showed me a weakness I should work on. And wouldn't assume or care if he went back and bragged to his buddies and be bummed out, now if he was a douche bag while training with you, then that's another story. But if you don't understand why someone is coming to the school, why not politely ask them?, make a friend instead of a rival, IMHO. Now as far as judo or any other martial art, if an instructor asks you to do something, you do what the instructor says. I feel what you mean though and agree you should be an empty cup ready to learn. Just have a good vibe and attitude.

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Originally Posted by Enrique "Kiko"

I heard Judo, especially when training in the beginner's classes is ultra rough on the body, even more so than wrestling. Something about white belts hip throwing you and not being able to control it fully yet may be the culprit.

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Meh.. it has more to do with people not properly knowing how to breakfall. It's true that experienced guys will sometimes hold people and not slam them, but that's because they can tell if somebody can breakfall. A white belt will literally just do the throw and dump you from six feet off of the ground.. that's just the throw. And that's without the dude hucking his whole body into you on the impact to deflate you in order to land a submission.