This has been out since May but I've never seen it posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RArD...ature=youtu.be
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This has been out since May but I've never seen it posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RArD...ature=youtu.be
clinch clinch clinch. Decisons decisions!!!
Here's another good one with Keenan Cornelius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbDK6KkZfnI
Is it just me or am I the only one not into watching Rafa? Especially after M3Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Its just you. That match at M3 was Clark non-stop defending/stalling Rafa to a decision then waiting for the last ten seconds to pretend he was attacking as well.
Crazy that he tapped Galvao. Spiral to 50/50 to a failed back take but it got him top position which led to the gator roll off the scramble. Incredible :)
i can never get enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
Totally agree. Galvao ain't easy to choke and is a lot bigger than Rafa. Keenan Cornelius said that during the entire 3 month ADCC 2013 training camp that Rafa didn't get tapped out once, and that camp was daily training with killers like Rafa, Galvao, Keenan, and JT Torres. I know Gui Mendes and Dean Lister helped a lot also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
I'd say it's just you man. That was an odd match, and nobody really knows why he didn't change his strategy, but 9/10 times he's a submission machine that relentlessly sweeps or takes the back and finishes. Nogi he's even more fun to watch IMO, and the M3 match was a fluke/oddity. I've never really seen a match like that from him before, and I don't expect to see one again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
He's had some other boring matches with Cobrinha in the gi, but they're both so good they usually cancel each other out and the matches are slow. You should watch their 2009 ADCC Final. No-gi. Rafa was 19 and it was his first Abu Dhabi. They had a 40 minute Double OT war where they both traded tons of sweeps, subs, and back takes. It's a clinic on spiral guard, gator rolls, darces, guillotines, reaping heel hooks, 50/50 heel hooks, kimuras, back control, good wrestling. Overall one of my top 3 favorite no-gi matches ever. It's free on youtube in 3 parts.
What is their mat made of? Doesn't look like standard tarp cover? Is that canvas?
I'm not sure, but i know it has tires under it. I also know Keenan Cornelius said the mats there get way more slippery than the mats at Atos San Diego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aiseop
Tires? That's one way to soften a hard osoto gari.
Ya, maybe i have been watching to much of his GI matches. Like when he steam rolled everyone at the SF Open.. i need to check out his nogi stuff
It also could be that i love cobrihna... and rafa has beat him alot :)
I love Cobrinha also, and he's probably in my top 5 favorites. I think it says a lot that he has neck and neck matches with Rafa and he's a good 10 years older. I think he'll be 35 this year? He's still clearly the 2nd best Featherweight in gi and no-gi IMO. Besides Rafa he can strongly beat anyone and he competes with the young guys in Adult. I was happy he won ADCC last year because that was the only major title he didn't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
You should be able to see most of it easily. He only competes at ADCC and hasn't done no-gi worlds since brown belt. I think he did another Abu Dhabi tournament no-gi a few years ago. But most of his no-gi stuff is between 3 ADCCs. He pretty much submits everyone until he always meets Cobrinha in the finals. Check out his ADCC matches against Justin Rader. Rader's a beast and he takes him out in about 1 minute each time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
while i'm not the biggest fan of rader i really felt for him in each of him matches with rafa. he gets completely crushed each time they have met up. mendes ran a COMPLETE CLINIC on him at adcc 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Rader is a beast, i think he is the only guy who has great wrestling and does not stall all the time. Unlike AJ Agrazam, he goes for the kill. He is still pretty young tho so he could get to the point where he can hang with Rafa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Toffolo
Sombody sent me the video of him rolling with Jake Sheilds NoGi. now that shit was impressive, he completly shut down Jake who out weighs him by alot.
I dont take my statement on rafa being that i dont think he is talented. for some reason i just am not a fan of watching his GI stuff, to bad he competes 80% of the time in the gi :)
Same with the Miayo brothers, i cant sit through a whole match when they compete in the gi, but Joao's match with Rader in ADCC was awesome
Great guard passing defense. Rafa just defends and defends and waits for the right time to attack :-)
Really big fan of Rafa and it inspires me to see him shutting down such big guys in sparring on his site.
On a side note: I wonder if Rafa watches Eddie's MTS... When watching Mendes Brothers online tutorials I am sure they use a lot of similar phrasing - 'smash' is the most apparent :D
Question for those with better understanding and higher belt than I:
What is it that Rafa is doing that is stopping Galvao go for his feet? I see that Rafa's body is too far away and that he is masterfully using his legs to stop Galvao passing, but being on his back so much he looks prime for ankle locks? Is it just that Rafa is so quick pulling them back, Galvao has experienced his defence so doesn't bother or something else?
Rafa and Keenan both play an open guard in no-gi that Galvao calls "lazy." Basically when you aren't close enough for them to play spiral/reverse delariva, they just kind of suck their knees to their chest and pick a hip to stay on until you attempt a pass and then they engage. When Rafa's legs are close to his chest like that he's very strong and it's not that easy to leg his legs away from his core.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apperz
They also often train with points in mind, and Rafa is very good at sweeping when people go for his feet. At ADCC 2011 Cobrinha put him in a disgusting inside heel hook that may have blown his knee but he didn't tap (http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/...ot-d5fp1op.jpg). if you zoom in on that pic you can see the horrible twist in the knee.
Rafa has sad before that he's made a conscious decision to never tap to joint locks. Budo Jake asked him if he's so flexible that they don't hurt and he said he is flexible but sometimes they do hurt, but that he just is never going to tap to them. The chances of Andre being able to actually secure a solid heel hook or foot lock on him, let alone finish it are pretty small.
So it's probably everything that you said. Cobrinha is really the only person I've seen go for Rafa's feet and it's usually when Rafa is also going for his feet, but they never finish each other.
hahaha that's hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Wow, that's gnarly. For how long was he out of the competition circuit after that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
There is a video of Cobrinha rolling with marcelo, and he was grabing his foot and twisting it when MG had spiral clinch, made me cringe i thought for sure MG's knee was going to blowQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikael Chay
He wasn't out at all. If he was injured he kept it hidden. people saw him icing his knee and ankle that day, but he didn't compete again for a good 4-5 months (between ADCC and the Pans I'd say?), so he could've been hurt and no one would've known. They didn't have a school at that time either, but I think they were still traveling and doing seminars and rolling with people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikael Chay
When he did come back at the Pans he armbarred everyone in his division for the gold, even Cobrinha in the finals. I think they said that was the first time Cobrinha had been tapped by anyone at his weight at black belt. I've heard that Jose Aldo tapped Cobrinha at brown belt like 10 years ago but I don't know if that's true or not.
Not to hijack the thread but could it be this roll you're referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPAP4fFwrso
Maybe it's just me and my untrained eyes but weren't they going at it much harder than usual? It didn't look anything like other MG guest rolls to me...
That's crazy! Stuff jiu-jitsu legends are made of :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
I think it was the other ADCC prep roll they put up, where Cobrinha is in a orange rash guard I think? Marcelo's knee definitely had a crazy twist in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikael Chay
Yeah, they're going pretty hard. You can tell when MG is going harder, and this is one of those times. ADCC '11 was coming up, Cobrinha is one of the best ever, and there's not much point in rolling slower with him. They both were pushing each other pretty hard there. Thanks for posting that. Sick roll.
To tie in with what Andrew Alexander said earlier, Cobrinha is so under appreciated, especially in no-gi. ADCC champ, 4x nogi world champ, 4x consecutive gi world champ (not even Rafa did that), 3x consecutive Pans champ.
Rafa became his rival right when the internet age of jiu jitsu exploded so a lot of newer grapplers started seeing Cobrinha when he started losing to Rafa. But Cobrinha's a gangster.
Yeah the def where getting ready for something. he was not going for any sort of heel hook just twisting his foot for the hell of it. Just looked nasty lol :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
idk what comp it was for because it wasnt posted by MGinaction but by a 3rd party. but if anyone is a subscriber to MGinAction you could prob. find out what comp they where getting ready for. I agree 100% Cobrinha gets overlooked sometimes, but make no mistake that man is a SAVAGE, just look at his FB account. :) also he handled Rader at Worlds as well.
Wow. That is almost self-destructive. Especially if a guy like Galvao ended up latching a solid joint lock on. * SNAP CRACKLE POP*Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
His gator roll is phenomenal he also locked it up on Jake Shields during their roll, the guard retention to arm drag sequence during that roll was so on point..
Super scary how he controlled Sheilds. And that pop triangle he almost hit like 6 mins in was so quick. Rafa has a scary calmness to him, much like Marcelo, Kron, Keenan.
Couple of buddy's rolling in the gym and having some fun :-)
I'm on MGinaction and Estimainaction. It was definitely ADCC 2011. The only rolls with MG and Cobrinha on MGinaction are 2 nogi rolls (one posted here) and another one. Both were when Cobrinha visited to help Marcelo Garcia, Ryan Hall, Batista, and other Alliance competitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
Rafa has the best gator roll/anaconda choke in grappling sports, of all time. Not even close. It's still not really caught on on a mainstream level. The announcers thought his gators were darces at his first Abu Dhabi because no one had seen people slap them on so fast. The gator roll took a big backseat to the guillotine and darce in nogi but I think rafa kinda brought the gator/anaconda back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Garry
in case anyone hasn't seen this.
this is essentially the full match. it started maybe a couple of seconds before and mendes pulled guard. he finishes the RNC very soon after.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nS1PTBHzIM
Keenan vs. Rafa is pretty wild, i dont think i have ever seen Keenan get tapped before i saw that video.
I'm trying to think if I have. I can't think of anything else other than this armbar and it almost looked like Keenan was playing a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygCoWk4s3iU
Yep. That's about it. Ref restarted em in the middle and Rafa got a deep RNC with the face down body triangle after about 15 seconds of hand fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Toffolo
Here's their 2009 match. Just like the one you posted, the match started maybe a couple of seconds before the clip starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Toffolo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ihfSq8dTA
let's go all the way, shall we?
notice rader's intensity at 1:56 right after he escapes to his feet. i'm sure he's thinking "he threw everything at me and i'm STILL HERE."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qUJ1qPpEnc