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Eric Dubai is a government shill. So naturally he will associate the most controversial conspiracy with alternate earth research just to confabulate things.
It's your duty to separate your emotions from reason when researching controversial material like the holocaust. For instance it is 100% factual that not one single word was written about "gas chambers" in any of the three most prominent books on WW2: Eisenhower's "crusade in Europe", Churchills " Second World War" and the Memoirs of General De Gaulle. That is 100% fact and alone should raise some serious eyebrows. Not to mention the fact that it's impossible to cremate 6 million bodies in the 4 year time frame of the war. It's impossible to cremate even 1 million bodies. And no aerial photograph of the camps taken by the allies showed any smoke.
If you research the holocaust for even a few hours without emotional bias you see very quickly that it's a load of hogwash. Yeah innocent people died, which happens on ALL sides during war, and is a damn shame. But this demonizing of Hitler and gas chamber propaganda has been done for 1 reason and 1 reason alone: because Hitler abolished the baking practice of Usury from Germany and it went from an impoverished downtrodden country into an economic super power.
Watch "the greatest story never told" you will learn that you've been lied to your entire life.
Holy shit.
I get frustrated with videos like that because I don't want to judge it without watching it, but I can't spend 3 hours hate watching a video making a pro Nazi argument.
I watched 10 seconds of it and have decided that Eric Dubay is an asshole.
Holy eye openers Batman !!!
I've heard Joe Rogan talk about the Jewish Mohel on his podcast before and thought it was B.S. but to see actual pictures of it was tough.
6 HOURS ?!? That may take awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primalredemption
So you are sure of what a three hour video has to say based on ten minutes.... Riiiiight. All I'm gonna say on this is that you're not anti Semitic because you disagree with Zionists anymore than you're anti German because you disagree with Nazi rhetoric. Serious question have you ever read the Talmud?
http://nyp.st/2mZ8uLZ
Can you get ten minutes into this article? Cause it's the rabbis of the racist Talmud giving babies herpes... metzitzah b'peh. Motivated by the Talmud to cut a babies penis and drink the blood, but to collaborate to control finance the media and keep those silly Christian Americans fighting for gods chosen people to keep their stolen land, that's unthinkable.
When I first came across the idea that the holocaust was a hoax I remember having a distinct and very strong feeling of revulsion. And this was after yeeeears of going down the rabbit hole. That shows how strong the propaganda has been my and most people's lives. They got us deep with lies. But it fascinated me- what in the world would lead someone to deny the holocaust? What did these "monsters" have to say?
I read about how hydrogen cyanide will actually embed itself into concrete with repeated use, and how the supposed gas chambers in the concentration camps had no trace of it. This perked my interest.
Then I learned that the Jewish population in Europe actually increased between 1940 and 1947. Huh?? What hit me hard was learning that "Diary of Anne Frank" (the book almost every major Hollywood production on the holocaust was based off of) had been forensically proven to have been written with a BALL POINT PEN- which didn't even exist in 1945!! Then one by one fact after fact I soon realized I had awoken to one of the biggest lies of human history.
Yeah "greatest story" is a long video but pretty interesting to watch. Not all the answers are in there though.
Whoa, I didn't deny the holocaust and you just said "you people" twice ..... I also don't believe that just because something terrible happened means it's "the most horrible thing to ever happen" just because my family is somehow affected by it. As I pointed out, the Jewish people slaughtered the native people of Canaan (if the bible is even to be believed) doing worse than nazi Germany's did to the jews and even killed the livestock! You can't cry antisemite anytime anyone says something bad about some jews.
Great, have a nice day sir.
And court hearings have never been biased or wrong in the history of the world right? Good thinking genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Steinmetz
The testimonies was coerced through torture and threat and has all been documented: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Weberb.htmlQuote:
Of all the NAZIS on trial at Nurmberg, NOT ONE, NOT ONE denied that the Holocaust happened.
You should do some research before having an emotional outburst.
You better watch your mouth.Quote:
With the exception of Michael J. Hewson, you people are pathetic
Yo, for real I get real tired of you guys trolling on here. You need to be reasonable, you can not downplay what the Jewish people went through. It was horrible and millions of people died. Hitler did horrible things and its super not cool to say or imply that he did not. Show some respect.
The extent to what it was exaggerated should be discussed and I can hear you out but lets not be rude or insensitive about this.
Did the Jews do horrible things as well? Yes. I agree. We all agree. For sure they have done things that are horrible.
You trolls think you are making good arguments by bringing up what the Jews did as if that makes it ok to murder them en masse, thats not how it works.
Again show some respect.
Empty words. If you want to show real respect to the death then learn the Truth.
http://truedemocracyparty.net/wp-con.../auschwitz.jpg
271,301 dead counted at all the camps. This includes all races, not just Jews. Most deaths due to Typhus, and starvation caused by Allies (!shocker!) bombing the supplies lines to the camps. Not one single mention of gas chambers in the 3 most well known books at the times. NOT ONE SINGLE WORD. Do the math.
And learn the definition of "troll".
Again I ask you to show a little respect Primalredemption.
Lets talk about why you are being to rude and disrespectful to the jewish people who died, also lets talk about how rude and disrespectful you are being to all the soldiers around the world who died fighting hitler.
Why are you doing that exactly? I am sure you are a great guy deep down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ho...ish_death_toll
Lets dig right into this shall we.
I brought up what the Jews did so that we could look at this conversation objectively. Not in a "I'm Jewish so it's the worst and we can't ever talk about it" . If the saying is never forget than why won't you let some facts get out there. Also the point of brining up what the Jewish people did is BECAUSE THEY STILL BELIEVE IT! Everyone on this forum take a second and look at the Talmud says CURRENTLY about goyim (non Jews). It would be the equivalent of your texts books in school calling black people n*****s. That's my reason for bringing it up. You cannot say never forget but then bar the facts from being discussed. Are you racist to say white people stole America from the natives and killed 90% of their TOTAL population? No bro, you have to just say people maaaann, people did it. Rediculous. Ps white people run Africa. Hate to break it to you but your logical fallacy is cognitive bias sir. I feel you are unable to objectify the truth from your own heritage and perspective. But what do I know I'm just a stupid goy right, not only am I not human I am less than a beast (at least that is what rabbinic Judaism and pre Christian Yahweh currently says).
Hey man don't beat yourself up I am a Goy also, I am totally fine with it. Again what we are talking about is what hitler did is horrible and in my opinion after doing some research he helped to kill over 6 million jews. He also helped to kill tens of millions of other human beings, all under the name of him and his organization.
White people have done and do horrible things, jews did and do horrible things, chinese, japanese, australians, we can do this all day. I am not arguing with you about that because I agree.
We are not arguing what the talmud says, I agree that it does say that. What I am saying is, what Hitler and the Nazi's did was wrong and was super messed up. I ask you, do you agree with that statement?
I agree that what we know hitler did was absolutely horrendous. My argument is with not questioning the facts, and being ignorant (literal meaning) to the possibility that the Jews like many other races are taking their shot at global dominance reguardless of any atrocity. That is all.
So you are saying that right now the Jews are trying to achieve global dominance?
Can you clarify, in which countries are the actively doing that? In which countries do Jewish people hold political power and how powerful are those countries? (we can review the political power and military power of each country you state)
Also can you state clearly and provide solid evidence for such a claim?
Also lets talk about this figure there are 14,200,000 Jewish people in the world right now. At its historical peak in 1939 there were 17 million (0.8% of the global population at the time).
So you are telling me that the Jewish people all 17 million of them, were planning global domination. I am going to need to see some evidence and also an explanation on how 17 million people at its peak and 14 million people currently were or are going to take over the world?
Lol there are more people in Australia than 17 million.
How big is England... They ruled the world
What percent of the population was Italy when Rome ruled?
Australia is populated by Brits btw so it's not that crazy to think a small population can have high aspirations.
In 1901-1911 the United Kingdom's population was 38.2 million.
In 2013 the United Kingdom's population was 64.1 million.
In 25 BC the Roman empire had 56.8 million.
Again, I am going to need some evidence for your claims and an explanation.
At the 2011 census residents were asked to describe their ancestry, in which up to two could be nominated. Proportionate to the Australian resident population, the most commonly nominated ancestries were:
English (36.1%)
Australian (35.4%)
Irish (10.4%)
Scottish (8.9%)
Italian (4.6%)
German (4.5%)
Chinese (4.3%)
Indigenous Australians (3.0%)
Indian (2.1%)
Greek (1.9%)
Dutch (1.4%)
Filipino (0.99%)
Vietnamese (0.98%)
Lebanese (0.90%)
Polish (0.75%)
Maltese (0.72%)
Māori (0.62%)
Croatian (0.56%)
Welsh (0.50%)
French (0.49%)
Sri Lankan (0.46%)
Jewish (0.43%)
I'm not sure if you made a mistake using the word Britt but just so we are clear only the people who recognise as English are considered Britts.
I can do this all day every day homie.
My grandmother is from whales.... Homie
So yes because Britain ruled Scotland and Ireland I don't count their population. The Queen... Homie.
I wish I had all day :( you are lucky sir... I mean homie?
Haha this is so redundant. You are arguing that a sect of religious and ethnic zeolites couldn't possibly try running things but you are saying that one British family ran the world...
And to be clear, I'm not saying they are. I'm am however saying it's possible and suggestions and theories should be met with the confidence of one's ability to diceminate should be the answer. It's very possible. So without passing judgment because of personal bias, I can listen and disagree or disagree with reason, not feelings.
A simple exercise in common sense tells us that a "monstrous, evil dictator" would NOT spend a huge amount of time, resources and manpower loading up millions of people onto trains, constructing, staffing and maintaining multiple concentration camps, providing food, recreation, volleyball courts, libraries, operas, clean living environments and medical attention to several hundred thousand people for 4 YEARS just to spend a ridiculous amount of time, resources and man power to build giant gas chambers that would later have to be demolished, ship in freight trains full of zyklon B, MOUNTAINS of coke to fuel the innumerable furnaces and crematoria that would also have to be built and later demolished all just to corral hordes of these prisoners to be gassed to death. It's the most impractical, illogical, absurd faery tale every concocted.
Common sense tells us that a simple bullet to the head would be MUCH, MUCH more efficient. Stalin did this with 20,000,000 Christians.
The fact of the matter is that Hitler was actually a morally outstanding individual. He banned animal testing in Germany. He banned super markets so that local mom-and pop stores had a chance to compete. He banned USURY- the Jewish banking practice of charging interest on a loan. He fought for social reform for the working class. Even Ghandi spoke highly of him.
The fact of the matter is he was planning to deport the Jews to Madagascar. LOOK IT UP. It is all factual history. And stop calling people "rude" and "disrespectful" because it is actually rude and disrespectful of you to say that without any provocation whatsoever beyond your own emotional extremism.
Over 90 BILLION dollars in reparations payments have been handed out since 1952. The World Jewish Population increased between 1940 and 1947:
World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359
World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000
Look it up- it's in the World Almanac. Does it look like 6,000,000 Jews died? There was only 4 million Jews in the areas Hitler conquered- so if 6 million of these 4 million died, WHO THE HELL WAS LEFT TO COLLECT THE 90 BILLION DOLLARS?
Use your brain, hewson. And show some respect for the dead by learning the truth of what happened.
I think I have already won this argument guys. You are saying the same things but not convincing me of anything.
So why are you trolling? Lets talk about it guys. Do you hate the Jews? Do you think its fun to trick people? Are you delusional? Has a doctor ever told you that you have a problem mentally?
As someone watching this thread and eating popcorn, I have to disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael J Hewson
Clearly there is some fuckery in the mainstream accounts of how many died, and how. What that means, is debatable. I don't get the feeling he "hates the jews" I think he's pointing out fuckery and bullshit. How you choose to interpret that is up to you.
Hypothetically, if someone actually lies about how many jews died, and I point it out, am I anti-Semitic?
And saying shit like "you're trying to trick people" which I've heard you say before... if someone has a different idea about what's true that you saying basically "I'm right so therefore you're trying to trick people" is not an argument at all. You said you won the argument? Not with that shit you havent....
I think you actually lost the argument. I don't even agree with a lot of what he's saying, but I think you failed miserably to argue against his assertions. How are his numbers wrong? How is he interpreting the data wrong? What's wrong with the conclusions he's drawing?
Honestly man what I would suggest you do is sit back and have a good long hard think about a lot of these subjects. What shape is the Earth, how long does it take to form an industrial human cremation industry and what's it's capacity. What does it mean to be wrong, if you are wrong, about something you are really sure of. How would that make you feel? Instead of responding so fast, consider the argument. Consider you might be wrong, longer, and more often, than you normally do.
You seem to be resisting things because they contradict what you think, rather than based on the merits or lack there of, of the argument itself. At least that's what I get from your posts.
I don't agree with you Craig. I have a majority of the world's leading scientist and historians backing me on both round earth and how many jews died and the morals of hilter and the nazis.
I also have the majority of facts and hard science on my side. One can not bring one fuzzy document to an argument and claim that proves how many jews were killed, there are many many people who have studied this and like I said the majority have come to the conclusion that the number of jews that were killed is 6 million.
Your claims on how I should view the situation can and will be turned right back onto you and the others in this thread.
Again, you need to be bringing some good facts from reputable sources that back up your claims.
Craig just won the Internet as a white belt.
Reputable sources... Like the world almanac? Also why is a logical argument not a legitimate source?
Yeah, well I was directly contradicting you so, that's kind of implied. No surprises there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael J Hewson
Ok name 5. Please cite me 5 peer reviewed scientific journal articles that break down how that 6 million number is derived. Obviously you dont just guess, so whoever came up with that based it on data. Find the article, find the data, and let's have a look.Quote:
there are many many people who have studied this and like I said the majority have come to the conclusion that the number of jews that were killed is 6 million.
You said "you cant bring 1 old document" but you brought so far, zero documents to the argument.
But he's not presenting these ideas for you to refute by quoting someone else. He's asking you to consider, with your own mind, what a human industrial crematorium looks like. How man sites were there, how many years, means how many bodies a day? How big were they? How long does it take to cremate one body? Now do the math.... you dont need other people's opinions to think about this subject.Quote:
Again, you need to be bringing some good facts from reputable sources that back up your claims.
My point was that you should think about things yourself, rather than rushing to what "many many" other people think.
You talk about facts. Here is one he gave that you keep ignoring. It's from the almanac, is that a bad source?
World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359
World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000
So, is that wrong? If so how? If not, then how do you explain the missing 6 million deaths? Maybe it IS wrong, but have you studied where that almanac gets it's figures from? How did they estimate?
Most of your argument boils down to "the majority of people agree with me". But what the majority believe has proven, over and over again, to be a bad way to tell true from false.