Dan Hardy Wins by SUB or KO?

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Originally Posted by Sam Sales

People are counting Hardy out but I think he has a good chance. In fact I like this fight i think it is 50/50, and I think both guys are great, and stylistically it is a good match up. If you look at their records Ludwig has been tko'd and ko'd quite a bit more than Hardy. That may be catching up with him. He was even beaten by Daley, who is one of Hardys closest friends and long time training partners. Plus Hardy will be so hungry for this W. I know his recent record has been bad but I think he has turned a corner from listening to his interviews and stuff. He certainly seems to be taking the wrestling etc more seriously. Also I can think of a few fighters now that lost 3 or 4 fights in a row then come back and got some w's.

This is Mma, anything can happen. :-)

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My thoughts exactly mate.......just a bit more in depth lol

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Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge

I'm routing for Bang! Will he win...it depends on Hardys strategy. Dan's best chance to win is to use his Jiu Jitsu.

Most tko's need to be taken out of the equation. The majority of tkos are from ground n pound not stand up. Its kind of a flawed stat.

As far as stand up goes who has Dan really KO!! Take the G-N-P tkos out of it. Maybe 2 or 3 in the middle to lower ranks (fighters). Bang has fought and ko much higher caliber standup guys. Sure anything could happen in a fight, your right. But, Bang will put a clinic on Dan if it remains standing.IMO

Dan has been working with Ricky "the Hybrid" Lundell who's a "so called genius" with combining wrestling with BJJ. So I have a feeling its going to the ground.

I'm looking forward to watching this fight!!!

Both fighters have their ties to 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu

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Hi, sorry I should have been clearer. I was kinda talking about damage received and the long term affects when talking about the ko and tko stats. Ludwig has been finished with strikes 5 or 6 times I think, whereas Hardy just once I believe. Catches up with you eventually. I think Hardy will be in slightly better shape too.
Definitely agree though, Hardy should just shoot on him ASAP, it is his best chance. :-)

Bang will break Hardy I am sorry.

Close fight could go either way but Dan Hardy takes this I think.

Dan Hardy's days as a UFC fighter end tomorrow night, sorry to Say. BANG has excellent striking, improved takedown defense and has been "working on my jiu-jitsu on a daily basis". His camp also appears to be confident in his improvement on the ground. Dan Hardy hasn't shown anything impressive to me since his loss to GSP. Your only as good as your last few fights. And Dan has gone 0-4 now.. whereas Bang is 2-2 and looked impressive against Neer even in that loss. Hardy will be overwhelmed by Bang's more diverse and crisper striking and will take home a black eye and a pink slip.

I got Hardy by decision

No TKOs aren't a flawed stat. The fighter gets dazed from a strike and then goes down. If the ref wasn't in the cage then the other guy would just get pounded unconscious so it's basically the same as a KO it just spares the other fighter the punishment. Dan has got KO power. Remember Rory Markham? He had Lytle who has never been finished on wobbly legs. He had Swick and Davis dazed really bad too.

I've got Bang by dec.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

I've got Bang by dec.

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I wouldnt be disappointed if that happened instead. Bang seems to be the more technical striker so as long as he dictates the pace he could take this one very easily. Just for some reason I picture Hardy moving forward more therefore looking more active and how ignorant most judges are, taking the decision

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Originally Posted by Andrew T

No TKOs aren't a flawed stat. The fighter gets dazed from a strike and then goes down. If the ref wasn't in the cage then the other guy would just get pounded unconscious so it's basically the same as a KO it just spares the other fighter the punishment. Dan has got KO power. Remember Rory Markham? He had Lytle who has never been finished on wobbly legs. He had Swick and Davis dazed really bad too.

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I thought KO power, is actually KO a person out, not dazing people. I think we a difference of opinion. Hitting someone, and the lights go out is knock out power. Never heard a fighter say they daze a lot of fighters when they fight.

Yes, TKO's are a flawed stat in mma. When people talk about power striking. Here's why I think your wrong Andrew. You use the example of (The fighter gets dazed from a strike and then goes down.) Many tko's don't happen that way. So your example has them standing and banging and one guy gets caught, goes down, and the other guy gnp him into a tko. OK... how about all the times when both fighter are already on the ground. One guy transitions into a dominant position on the ground ( crucifix, mount, trapped against the cage, etc.) then the dominant fighter starts striking his opponent (doesn't even have to be hard) and the guy on the bottom can't defend. So the referee stops the fight by tko... The flawed part of tko's that I was talking about earlier. When looking at peoples record and you see tko you have watch the fights again to see how it really ended because as I stated before Hardy doesn't have many ko's against near top level guys. You mention Markham; ok give some more of his premium ko's against somebody decent. I only see 1 maybe 2 more.

I do believe Hardy has KO power. I was just comparing Hardy & Bang. I don't know if this made any sense and I'm to tired to reread it. So I will leave with a little Nick Diaz, A, whatever....Cesar Gracie Jiu Jitsu!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ioo3IrE6aE