I'm not saying it was aliens.....but......
It was aliens.
I'm not saying it was aliens.....but......
It was aliens.
when you talk " Aliens " you must remember that everything about them is " Alien " so forget anything you think you know about science or there possible motives. when you talk resources your thinking from an earthlings perspective, again forget any physics or science that were used to on earth, and please don't assume they would have a objective you can understand or science you can relate to there quote " Aliens " and it's the ultimate in human arrogance to think because we can't go there they can't come here. and my quote was Zero evidence they've "never" been here. but again theres enough evidence that suggest they have been here since the beginning enough to win the case in court.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Hester
you also mentioned " Cost " as if they would have same the monitary system as us. i run into a lot of people who still have there "training wheels" on logically they have to concede thers life in space any planetary scientist will tell you life is carried on comets. but they just can't wrap there minds around all the evidence clearly showing us theyve been here since the beginning. to accept the fact that the universe is full of life but then say they " can't come here " or havent been here is like. is just like karate dudes that didn't believe in jiujitsu or ground fighting until they got choked out & forced to accept reality, they then conceded the effectivness of jiujitsu but refused to learn. then all there students left to learn jits & any new student ask's if they can teach jiujitsu, if not they walk right out the door. so now every karate school that was once anti ground fighting has a lightweight jiujitsu program. even if it's just 2 days a week. like the kenpo association now teaching 10thp. it's the same thing, some people have to be dragged into reality kicking and screemingQuote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
you also mentioned " Cost " as if they would have same the monitary system as us. i run into a lot of people who still have there "training wheels" on logically they have to concede thers life in space any planetary scientist will tell you life is carried on comets. but they just can't wrap there minds around all the evidence clearly showing us theyve been here since the beginning. to accept the fact that the universe is full of life but then say they " can't come here " or havent been here is like. is just like karate dudes that didn't believe in jiujitsu or ground fighting until they got choked out & forced to accept reality, they then conceded the effectivness of jiujitsu but refused to learn. then all there students left to learn jits & any new student ask's if they can teach jiujitsu, if not they walk right out the door. so now every karate school that was once anti ground fighting has a lightweight jiujitsu program. even if it's just 2 days a week. like the kenpo association now teaching 10thp. it's the same thing, some people have to be dragged into reality kicking and screemingQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt Hester
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Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
" but they just can't wrap there minds around all the evidence clearly showing us theyve been here since the beginning."
What evidence? Just because zarchria sitchen, whom translated a few texts, in which he does not quote, or say from which texts it's come from, said aliens have been here, does not mean that is true. Also, just because there is evidence of higher technology used at ancient sites does not give evidence for aliens doing it. It is way more probable that we were advanced in the past. Why would aliens come here, make a bunch of stone structures and then leave with almost no trace?
please show me your monumental amount of evidence that will prove they were here in a court case, because if that is so I can make a lot of money.
your so wrong my friend! Zacharia sitchin Quoted the sumarian text look it up, plus in the sumarian text the sumarians said gold dust particles can be used to shield the atmosphere from cosmic wrays, 6 thousand years ago and that science is just being confirmed by modern scientist, Obama had a science panel that came to the same conclusion. the sumarians also new about every planet in our solar system even pluto without telescopes, the dogon tribe in africa also knew about Serius B without telescopes, and they say there creator was named Namo from serius B and he engineered them as well. i hear you in regards to an advanced civilzation being wiped out. but the main problem with that theory is that not a single anchient tribe says they were humans from earth, they all say "hey" thease beings came from the stars, not across the ocean. but that theory does have a place, meaning all of the above is true. humans built thease cites with the assistence of "alien technology". why? because thats exactly what the anchients tell us, & who are we to say there lying we werent there. as far as evidence i can go all day, from Puma Punku, to the Nazca Lines, to Gobekli Teppi, to Pacal the Greats Sarcophagus showing him taking off in a rocket ect, plus helicopters, submarines, ufo's ect on egyptian walls at the dandera temple. it's funny how sceptics only offer scepticism but no answers themselves & they never admit they don't know either. but anchient alien researchers never run out of material. & in regards to a court case, again take all the hardware & software. compile it and theres only one logical conclusion, not to mention astronauts like Gordon Cooper & Edgar Mitchell both say they saw ufo's in space. who's more qualified than astronauts ?? they actually go into space after countless physical and mental test !! hypothetical question ? if you were trying a murder case and witnesess all over the world said they saw me shoot a dude, and you found the smoking gun with my prints on it, & you also have records written in stone saying i killed the dude, plus you have video of me in the act, and numerous police officers, military generals, pilots, astronauts ect all credible people willing to put there careers on the line saying they all saw me shoot the dude. that would mean you have everything but my confesstion. thats more than enough to get a conviction & if you can't then your the most shitty lawyer in history. Jhonny Cocharan got OJ off simply with gloves that didn't fit. the gov convitcs dudes with no hard evedence or witness testomony simply with just conspiracy charges. no crime or evidence just rumors. no one who studies this subject says they know for a fact what happened, but it's funny how sooo many sceptics act like they somehow know exactly what happened and is happenning ( because the phenomonon continues ) with 0 evidence to support the sceptics point of view, why not just admit you don't have a clue instead of saying " well aliens can't come here " or " why would they come and just leave " 1st who says they left, 2nd why assume you would have any ability to comprehend there motives or modes of travel. there " Alien " again it's the ultimate in "human arrogance" to make thease assumptionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlemange August K.
How come zacaria sitchen goes against against other Sumerian scholars? If you actually look into the facts, they never knew about 12 planets, they have one seal which is this http://o.beyond2012hq.com/wp-content...-on-flickr.jpg
There is not a single text in the entire corpus of Sumerian or Mesopotamian tablets in the world that tells us the Sumerians (or later inhabitants of Mesopotamia) knew there were more than five planets. This is quite a claim, but is demonstrable through the work of scholars who specialize in cuneiform astronomy. Below I list all the major works on cuneiform astronomy (catalogues of texts, dissertations / books) and invite readers to check them out of a library and look for themselves. Literally every cuneiform text that has any astronomical comment (even with respect to astrology and omens) has been translated, catalogued, indexed, and discussed in the available academic literature. The tablets are often quite detailed, even discussing mathematical calculations of the appearance of planetary bodies in the sky, on the horizon, and in relation to other stars. The field is by no means new, and is considerably developed.
The seal is transliterated (the Sumero-Akkadian signs in English letters) and translated in the principal publication of the Berlin Vorderasiatische Museum’s publication of its seal collection, Vorderasiatische Rollsiegel (“West Asian Cylinder Seals”; 1940) by Mesopotamian scholar Anton Moortgat on page 101. This book is in German, so I offer the German and an English translation:
Line 1 = dub-si-ga “Dubsiga” [a personal name of an apparently powerful personc]
Line 2 = ili-il-la-at “Ili-illat” [another personal name, this time of the seal’s owner]
Line 3 = ir3-su “dein Knecht” [German for “your servant”d]
So the full (rather boring) inscription of line one reads: “Dubsiga, Ili-illat, your/his servant.” Nothing in the inscription suggests anything remotely to do with astronomy or planets.
In an email correspondence with Dr. Rudi Mayr, whose dissertation was on cylinder seals, Dr. Mayr commented on the inscriptions and the seal [and I interject a few comments in blue]:
“The seated figure is a god; the ‘flounced’ garment is normal for deities (though kings start wearing them a little later); deities also have the distinctive headdress. Most scholars call it a ‘horned’ headdress, but I’ve always thought it looked more like flames than horns. Ancient texts often refer to deities having a bright, shining, brilliant aspect [this is true across the ancient near east – witness the “shining one” terminology I discuss in The Façade and in several papers on my website]; they don’t mention horns . . . The introducing figure also has the ‘horns’ of divinity” [this is a strong contextual argument that the symbol – again, it’s not the “sun” – to the upper left of the introducing figure is a star. Precisely because they SHINE, stars were associated with deities. Shamash, the sun god, had his own symbol of the sun.
If you look at either of the incriptions on the tablet it refers to servants and nothing to do with Planets.
The “Sun” in that picture actually refers to Shamash, not the sun in our solar system.
All my information is from here : Jeremy Black, Gods, Demons, and Symbols of Ancient Mesopotamia: An Illustrated Dictionary (University of Texas Press, in conjunction with the British Museum, 1992): 168. This is an excellent reference source. Dr. Black is a well known Sumerian scholar. He was formerly the Director of the British School of Archaeology in Iraq and is now university lecturer in Akkadian and Sumerian at Wolfson College, Oxford.
I have read 2 of sitchins books, watched ancient aliens, and looked extensivly into evidence of them visiting us. In fact, I have personally seen UFO's last december and it couldnt be anything but that esp the way they moved and looked.
But NOTHING, you say gives any evidence that it was aliens. You say there is “only one conclusion” how about the conclusion that several scholars who helped argue for the cases in Ancient Aliens, that there is something fishy with our current history, are not even Ancient astronaut theorist, they are a movement of scholars that argue for a lost civilization. Everything you have said, could ALSO be explained by a lost civilization. Most of your evidence has been shown to correlate more strongly with us having a further and more advanced history. Also, if you have taken law, or a basic language and logic class, you can never make a valid, or a sound argument because someone says something is so. For example, if you told me gravity exists because of reason A, B, and because Newton agrees with A, and B, and said so... it would never hold up in court, or in any type of science fair. About 40% of researchers do indepentent studies, including those from NASA and colleges all across the globe. DO you really think that you could keep the existance of UFOs that guarded up from today's youth or researchers? I'll grant you most people are pretty stupid, but we are not that dumb.
http://www.classicalastrologer.com/shamash.jpg
This is the actual sun symbol in sumerian texts. I suggest reading both sides of the story. I want nothing more for aliens to come here, but there is not enough strong evidence to support it. And UFO's do not always mean it's an alien.
Ill just say its a big universe and we dont even know of all the animals and insects on this planet or what exactly is at the bottom of the ocean
Until its time for something to be proved to the majority there are always ways of disproving it with what seems like rational thinking from a certain understanding