In the disrespectful aspect, is that they don't believe that they would not benefit from rolling with a woman and it is even disrespectful to even ask them to. Me personally it doesn't matter to me I roll with everyone.
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In the disrespectful aspect, is that they don't believe that they would not benefit from rolling with a woman and it is even disrespectful to even ask them to. Me personally it doesn't matter to me I roll with everyone.
We're lucky(?) enough to have four girls and most of the time at least two in every class, they roll with everyone for the most part. Generally avoid brand new people until someone else rolls with them and sees they aren't a spaz, which is something guys do as well. I've never heard anyone say anything about it, generally it's considered just another roll.
Wow... In my opinion they should leave martial arts behind right now. They need to check their ego at the door and realize that it isn't all about what "they" are getting out of it. What they are saying is the equivalent to Eddie or Marcelo refusing to roll with them because it would not benefit them as high level black belts.
I've rolled with really high level girls that were ligther than me, and been tapped repeadetly.. I've rolled with girls that just plain suck at grappling too. Doesn't matter to me. Everyone is in the gym to learn self defense, and a sport.
Provided a man has had a girlfriend at some point in his life, then physical contact with a woman shouldn't be that big of a deal. It's not a sexual scenario either. When you grapple you focus on winning and defending, it's a pretty pure thing.
It's a non-issue to me.
The very idea of people not wanting to roll with another person because that person is of another sex just seems beyond weird, and retarded if you ask me.
I could understand it if said person belonged to a very strict religious group, but that wouldn't make it any less stupid.
I guess there could be several reasons, but I think the main ones would be ego or insecurity.
A friend of mine met a girl in a match a few weeks ago, and he asked me; "Omg Joachim, I'm competing against a girl, what do I do? Fuck!"
I told him; Do as you always do. Don't loose, don't go lighter, don't go harder, just get her and that's that. No biting, scratching,tit-slapping or cunt-punts! :)
She had very little grappling expirience, so he won easily. I still don't get what the big deal was. We automatically asume that girls are inferior, but in grappling that's not always the case. There are fewer girls, and even fewer that are really competent, but at the end of the day, in the same weight class, technique and expirience wins.
And if they aren't good enough, that's their problem. No girls are gonna get better by guys rolling too light with them all the time.
That's my take on it. Oh, and if I were a girl and guys at my gym refused to roll with me, I'd be pissed.. wtf.
If I roll with a girl, she's gonna wanna sleep with me. I've accepted this burden and carry it grudgingly. It's not their fault. It's nature. I just try to ignore her obvious overwhelming physical attraction to me and keep our minds on jj. Don't make it awkward ladies. And 37% of dudes.
This is why I wanna roll Rhonda and Miesha. And Gsp. And a goat. At the same time..
Much appreciation for everyone's contribution on the subject.
I'm not greedy.