How come you don't see a lot of knee on belly in mma?

im not a purple brown or black that has all these master KOB skills like it seems everyone posting above does but im just getting into it and im really liking it. i think working on those components that frank was talking about with KOB is great because it translates into the rest of your game as well. if you can flow with what they do and stay in KOB then being able to contrl them aswell in normal side etc is simple in comparison

Ben Askren uses it quite often in MMA, more from open guard to pass put pressure on the sternum, usually sets up a cross knee pass.

Being a small guy, knee belly is a must have. Look at all the guys who don't use it in their game, and who are small too, and you see how limited they are in the 'control against bigger guys' department. Holding a guy in head and arm who is powerful isn't easy, especially if he is big strong and scrambly. Its a great control point and it always makes them move if they play the tight
'T rex' from side C bottom game. If they don't move, I dig it in deeper and deeper until they move giving me my option to attack.
KOB also opens up the back too especially against big guys as they really power out of the KOB cos its a pain in the ass, which ultimately opens many attack options. Jeff Glover has awesome attacks with Triangles from KOB. Check them out.

Finally, KOB has many faces and angles. IF I have head and arm, sometimes I creep my shin alone on top of the ribs like I'm thinking about mounting and use it to block the right hip but still giving me both my arms to attack with. One of my favourite mount recoveries is to use my right shin like a wiper and dismount with it instead of being put into 1/4 guard. Take for example the warm drill number 3 in the "D" series. Especially from mount, putting someone in 1/4 guard is crucial, and we know it, so KOB players can swing their right shin using the kneecap as a compass pin keeping it dug in, and use the ankle and foot as the pencil being flexible and adaptable with it.

KOB is a system in itself is probably what I am painfully trying to explain. Its worth it for me, and if you are courageous enough to put the reps in, you'll be wrapped with the results.

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Originally Posted by FRANK BARCA

Being a small guy, knee belly is a must have. Look at all the guys who don't use it in their game, and who are small too, and you see how limited they are in the 'control against bigger guys' department. Holding a guy in head and arm who is powerful isn't easy, especially if he is big strong and scrambly. Its a great control point and it always makes them move if they play the tight
'T rex' from side C bottom game. If they don't move, I dig it in deeper and deeper until they move giving me my option to attack.
KOB also opens up the back too especially against big guys as they really power out of the KOB cos its a pain in the ass, which ultimately opens many attack options. Jeff Glover has awesome attacks with Triangles from KOB. Check them out.

Finally, KOB has many faces and angles. IF I have head and arm, sometimes I creep my shin alone on top of the ribs like I'm thinking about mounting and use it to block the right hip but still giving me both my arms to attack with. One of my favourite mount recoveries is to use my right shin like a wiper and dismount with it instead of being put into 1/4 guard. Take for example the warm drill number 3 in the "D" series. Especially from mount, putting someone in 1/4 guard is crucial, and we know it, so KOB players can swing their right shin using the kneecap as a compass pin keeping it dug in, and use the ankle and foot as the pencil being flexible and adaptable with it.

KOB is a system in itself is probably what I am painfully trying to explain. Its worth it for me, and if you are courageous enough to put the reps in, you'll be wrapped with the results.

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+1 Love transitioning from KOB to mount and back on big guys

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Originally Posted by FRANK BARCA

Being a small guy, knee belly is a must have. Look at all the guys who don't use it in their game, and who are small too, and you see how limited they are in the 'control against bigger guys' department. Holding a guy in head and arm who is powerful isn't easy, especially if he is big strong and scrambly. Its a great control point and it always makes them move if they play the tight
'T rex' from side C bottom game. If they don't move, I dig it in deeper and deeper until they move giving me my option to attack.
KOB also opens up the back too especially against big guys as they really power out of the KOB cos its a pain in the ass, which ultimately opens many attack options. Jeff Glover has awesome attacks with Triangles from KOB. Check them out.

Finally, KOB has many faces and angles. IF I have head and arm, sometimes I creep my shin alone on top of the ribs like I'm thinking about mounting and use it to block the right hip but still giving me both my arms to attack with. One of my favourite mount recoveries is to use my right shin like a wiper and dismount with it instead of being put into 1/4 guard. Take for example the warm drill number 3 in the "D" series. Especially from mount, putting someone in 1/4 guard is crucial, and we know it, so KOB players can swing their right shin using the kneecap as a compass pin keeping it dug in, and use the ankle and foot as the pencil being flexible and adaptable with it.

KOB is a system in itself is probably what I am painfully trying to explain. Its worth it for me, and if you are courageous enough to put the reps in, you'll be wrapped with the results.

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+1 for the detailed explanation

Thanks Frank, for that post. I will start working KOB as soon as I get back to training. I am a smaller guy thank most in our club.

Stability ball training like Jeff Glover utilises is vital for kob development. Totally agree with frank for smaller ppl, developing kob game is a must.

Glad you got something out of it.
What can I say, I'm a tech head.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Bergdorf

+1 for the detailed explanation

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