Ibjjf scandal?

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Originally Posted by Eric Schuettenberg

I competed in the Gi Pan ams twice Before I started 10th Planet. The second time in 2010 my coach bought me a new Gi for the tournament. I flew out to L.A. to compete and when my division was called they measured my Gi and said it didnt meet specifications that I had 20 min to get a new Gi or I would be DQ. I only had two guys on my team near me at the time one was a foot taller than me and the other was a foot shorter than me so I couldnt borrow their Gis. I ended up buying a Gi for $140. It was the only one any of the venders had in my size. After I competed I called my coach and told him what happened. He told me he would call the manufacturer and find out what the problem was because they told him it was Ibjjf approved. Later theat day I saw another one of my teammates with the exact same gi on competing. When he was done I asked him how he competed with his Gi because they wouldnt let me wear mine? He said when our coach called the manufacturer they told him they forgot to pay their sponsor ship fee but would call right away and get it taken care of. So it didnt have anything to do with my Gi not meeting specs it was all about the fkn sponsorship money. I decided then that I would never compete in an IBJJF tournament again

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That's disgusting, man.

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Originally Posted by John Mejia

You know what you're getting into when you sign up though.

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ABSOLUTELY. It drives me mad to hear people complain about the rule set of a tournament they signed up for and competed in.

Now as a consumer of the product, I can't stand to watch it because of the rule set. But that's a completely different issue.

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Originally Posted by John Mejia

ISOF = International Submission Only Federation, eddies brand that the Midwest Submission Challenge is continually using.

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Ooooh yeaah. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Now as a consumer of the product, I can't stand to watch it because of the rule set. But that's a completely different issue.

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Agreed its awful for the spectators. However I do enjoy when Budo Jake commentates on the Worlds

Damn son. Call me crazy, but I think people should just straight up boycott.

this is some fucked up shit

Something was bound to surface about these guys.. After doing a few of their events, I realized why some 10pjj people boycott their tournaments.

If you know a decent amount about the IBJJF, chances are you probably already know most if not all of this stuff. In fact Eddie has posted on the 10th Planet forum a number of times mentioning how Master Carlos Gracie Jr basically runs IBJJF but it is essentially run by GB. It is definitely an imperfect system with a bunch of ridiculous stuff go on (ie. did anyone ever see the notice they sent to a competitor regarding bringing water matside prior to his fight? or that rubbish about how koral purple belts were banned because they looked 'too lilac'?), but at the end of the day, they have developed into the biggest and most prestigious organization for BJJ in the world.

You don't see Gracie Barra winning the team title every year just because of their direct connection to the organization, in fact Alliance has won the last 5 world team titles. I read an article some time back about how the IBJJF is hindering BJJs chances of getting into the Olympics and its completely true. FILA would have been the only way it would've gotten in but even they have dropped submission grappling I believe so BJJ in the Olympics is all but impossible in the near future.

There are plenty of other options for people who don't like the IBJJF and they survive and thrive because the odd actions and conduct of the IBJJF is well known. There is definitely a money making racket behind the whole operation and that's why the worlds were permanently moved to the Pyramid Cali a few years ago from the legendary Tijuca Tennis Club. Also the whole certifying belts process is tedious, unprofessionally run, and costly with little of any of these profits seemingly plugged back into the sport for the athletes or future growth of BJJ. The worlds would be the true worlds if they had a qualifying process but it is a major cash grab instead. With all this said, lets not be naive. This is how it has been for quite some time and its not like there isn't corruption elsewhere. I've heard of ridiculous corruption in the Abu Dhabi Pro as well (Not ADCC, a different Sheik runs this one), and other organizations have their own issues.

I think alot of you bring up some excellent points. Personally, if you're so against it, don't compete and don't worry about it. You can be a good grappler who is recognized by others as long as you have a decent legit lineage and you don't need the IBJJF for that. The IBJJF doesn't always do things in the way most generally perceived as 'right' or 'correct' but they are the most recognized sanctioning body for bjj in the world (official or unofficial). Finally, don't believe everything you read either. I'm not Scoop McGuillicutty or anything, but their are errors in the report about the Sam Osman situation and other things as well as far as I know. When it comes to the IBJJF consumer beware, but know what you are getting into :p

I think Bjj needs to stay out of the Olympics - you think the rules are bad now? Look what they did to Judo...

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Originally Posted by brianspinaltap

I think Bjj needs to stay out of the Olympics - you think the rules are bad now? Look what they did to Judo...

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Agreed