Child ranks in 10th Planet BJJ?

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Originally Posted by Neil Kiernan

He has been in the game a long time so I doubt he is mistaken. I will check with him again for clarification as to what he meant.

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As you stated it , he is incorrect. It doesn't matter how long he has been " in the game" . Usja, usji and usa judo all have very specific rank and age criteria that you can look up yourself. Just so you know im not talking out of my ass, im a 5th Dan (5th degree black belt) in Judo. All the governing bodies have websites with this info available.

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Originally Posted by Cora Sek

I totally 110% agree with you on this. I've only been a BJJ dad for 3.5 yrs and I've seen so many kids come and go in this sport. I've seen many belt ranking systems. There are many factors involve when a kid quit BJJ, so anything that you can do to keep them interested in the sport is a good thing. Remember we are talking about kids. Ideally, yes one shouldn't strive for that belt promotion, that's if we are living in a perfect world. But the reality is this, kids will be kids and they do get distracted or bored. Some quit because they don't see the progression, some quit because they getting beat all the time in tournaments (because of different belt ranking system applied by different gyms). So there are many factors involved, but if you give a kid some short term goal such as that next belt promotion, maybe, just maybe he/she will stick around long enough to get good and realize this sport is actually for them. I mention his before, how I kept my daughter interested in this sport was we started with a "hit list". A list of all the kids that ever tapped her out or beat her. One by one, her short term goal is to catch up with those kids. Everyone of those kids represent a point system and all those points add up to rewards. The reward for her would be going to the movies or shopping...:) This works for awhile until she tapped out every kid in her gym or I go broke. The we make another list of the kids that has beaten her in tournaments. She knows that to catch up with these kids, she must train harder. And the prize will reflect accordingly. Adversely, if a kid beat her, points will be deducted from her total points accumulation. So in essence, she's been a prize fighter since she was 8...:) The belt system is just one way to keep the kids in the sport and to see where they are at among their peers.

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Its a intructor's responsibility to keep students interest, not belts. Wrestling doesn't use belts and it doesn't have that problem.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

Its a intructor's responsibility to keep students interest, not belts. Wrestling doesn't use belts and it doesn't have that problem.

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Actually wrestling loses thousands and thousands of people who initially try it. The retention rate is very low. And it definitely becomes a game for whomever started youngest. It's struggling to maintain programs in public schools. And a lot of it comes from the fact that kids have trouble maintaining how far they have come.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

As you stated it , he is incorrect. It doesn't matter how long he has been " in the game" . Usja, usji and usa judo all have very specific rank and age criteria that you can look up yourself. Just so you know im not talking out of my ass, im a 5th Dan (5th degree black belt) in Judo. All the governing bodies have websites with this info available.

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I understand. He is a 5th Dan as well. And his daughter used to compete with Ronda Rousey. As I said, I will look into it.

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Originally Posted by Neil Kiernan

I understand. He is a 5th Dan as well. And his daughter used to compete with op Rousey. As I said, I will look into it.

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Btw I just found it and took screen shots, but cant figure out how to upload it from my phone. I was a ranked national competitor and international medalist, what does his daughter competing with Rhonda have to do with it?

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Originally Posted by Neil Kiernan

Actually wrestling loses thousands and thousands of people who initially try it. The retention rate is very low. And it definitely becomes a game for whomever started youngest. It's struggling to maintain programs in public schools. And a lot of it comes from the fact that kids have trouble maintaining how far they have come.

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Thousands and thousands huh? Where did you get those numbers from? One of the major issues with wrestling is funding not numbers. Schools dont want to fund programs that are majority single sex sports.

Screenshots are not necessary. I believe you. I am asking for clarification from him. I brought up his daughter because he was involved with coaching youth in Judo for many years including taking them to the national championships.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

Thousands and thousands huh? Where did you get those numbers from? One of the major issues with wrestling is funding not numbers. Schools dont want to fund programs that are majority single sex sports.

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Wow you are bound and determined to get into an internet fight huh?

Schools have funding. There is less and less interest in wrestling as a whole. (Not saying I like that.) It's near removal from the olympics would be kind of an illustration of that.

Now im determined to post them as I can't figured it out.

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Originally Posted by Neil Kiernan

Wow you are bound and determined to get into an internet fight huh?

Schools have funding. There is less and less interest in wrestling as a whole. (Not saying I like that.) It's near removal from the olympics would be kind of an illustration of that.

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Nope, however you just can't spew shit out without proof and expect people to take it as fact. You are wrong on ranking and this as well. You said thousands and thousands, where are these stats?