This. The EBI rules make it superior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Mallory
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This. The EBI rules make it superior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Mallory
I like EBI and what Eddie is doing, but I'm not a fan of the OT rules, I don't really have a better suggestion yet , but the current OT rules don't do it for me
Its forced, there are guys who never get a dominant position all match than get put it back mount or armbar position with a chance to win? Doesn't make sense IMO
If you know you're a not a better grappler, have little chance to sub in regulation, you can stall for OT, also once the caliber of the tournament gets higher, there will be way more OTs, just not enough time to sub someone
I like EBI and what Eddie is doing, but I'm not a fan of the OT rules, I don't really have a better suggestion yet , but the current OT rules don't do it for me
Its forced, there are guys who never get a dominant position all match than get put it back mount or armbar position with a chance to win? Doesn't make sense IMO
If you know you're a not a better grappler, have little chance to sub in regulation, you can stall for OT, also once the caliber of the tournament gets higher, there will be way more OTs, just not enough time to sub someone
I get where you're coming from. If the same rules were applied to boxing, the OT would be two guys taking turns throwing their hardest punch until someone gets KO'd. So imagine Mayweather, being the better technician, fighting a guy who's a harder puncher. But boxing is not about who the hardest puncher is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquidrob
On the flip side, in submission only, one guy may not be the better grappler but he may have the better killer instinct for subs. One example I can think of is AJ Agazarm vs Garry Tonon in the Kumite. For like 30 minutes straight Agazarm totally dominated Tonon and scored an insane amount of "points." But Tonon still tapped him at the end. At that point, Agazarm was clearly the better "grappler," but Tonon was the better killer.
So I don't hate the EBI OT because it's not about who has the more dominant grappling style. It's about who has the better killer instinct for subs.
hilarious. well played
Good points, but using the kumite amd points, Keenan has dominated Tonon like 20 something to 2 amd 14-0, also in the Kumite he subbed him,but it took over 20minutes, that wouldn't have happened in EBI and Gary would have a chance to "win" by escaping faster? No thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
Those were there point tournament scores
I can understand the thing about conquering the position. My friend Aaron Briley who trained with Rickson said that this was something that Rickson always stressed. But as far as a format for TV the EBI overtime rules are better than the draws of metamoris imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquidrob
True submission only would be no points, no time limits like Lloyd Irvin did in the kumite which was awesome but not TV ready.
true, u could be right.
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Originally Posted by Jason Mallory
its not about what makes sense its about what's exciting. Having a shoutout after overtime in hockey doesn't make sense, a breakaway should be earned but its not cuz its exciting.
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Originally Posted by Liquidrob