Ryron's half-hearted rubber guard attempt against Warmaster

Keenan and Xande was intense! I just looked up the Clark/Satoshi match, always going for it which is great. I have a lot of respect for the gi and anyone who competes at the highest level of anything but in comparison to the nogi matches and the standard that has been set by EVERY EBI, it didn't have the excitement factor I personally was looking for. Then again, Sonnen and Babalu was horrible to watch. Haha, I missed Krons trash talking, I'll check that out!

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Originally Posted by Keith Kavanagh

Haha, I missed Krons trash talking, I'll check that out!

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"He's going for the same sweep! That's all he's got!"
"He's playing like he's in IBJJF tournament! He's got no other moves!" lol

Almost as good as Rickons chicken sounds, hahaha

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Originally Posted by Ric

The announcers glossed over every moment of that fight. The commentary was unbearable. They didn't make any attempt to even discuss the match at all. The hardly mentioned what was happening on the mat during that match. Rener's commentary, for the fights he commentated on, was engaging, passionate and informative. He should really be the main commentator for all the Metamoris matches.

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I know, wtf were they going on about, some random crap, and basically ignoring the match. I think it was while Keenan was commentating with them. Very unprofessional.

It was also funny seeing Metamoris' Facebook threads, with a bunch of people making comments like, "you should try EBI rules, have you seen that?" Hilarious.

Would have been cool to see an attempt at a gag reflex from here.

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Would have been cool to see an attempt at a gag reflex from here.

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Sweet screen-cap.

Imagine if Ryron had submitted JB with a 10th planet submission, and all the fallout from it...

It would have been "assimilated" into GJJ somehow; that they've never been against it, just that you don't use it to begin with, but that when someone like Josh comes at you with his size and his forward-weight from your guard it's a good technique. That Grandfather Helio used to do it against old Luta Livre fighters in the 1950s all the time.

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Originally Posted by Aiseop

It would have been "assimilated" into GJJ somehow; that they've never been against it, just that you don't use it to begin with, but that when someone like Josh comes at you with his size and his forward-weight from your guard it's a good technique. That Grandfather Helio used to do it against old Luta Livre fighters in the 1950s all the time.

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Haha, spot on.

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Originally Posted by Aiseop

It would have been "assimilated" into GJJ somehow; that they've never been against it, just that you don't use it to begin with, but that when someone like Josh comes at you with his size and his forward-weight from your guard it's a good technique. That Grandfather Helio used to do it against old Luta Livre fighters in the 1950s all the time.

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I agree. You hear people all the time swear that the philosophy they practice is the only thing that matters. I don't feel a truly open minded fighter would base their game around just 10th planet specific techniques, or just Gracie Jiu Jitsu, or just catch wrestling or sambo, but rather would look to blend philosophies and take the best and what they like of each. You could sense the level of respect Josh had for Ryron in his interview after the fight. I liked this match a lot cuz it showed two totally different styles and how they can actually have some effectiveness against each other, though by neglecting another different style (Ryron's case with 10th planet) we saw a limitation in his game, despite the fact that he's a high, high level GJJ practitioner (i.e. a self-defense specialist) and held his own for a spell. For this reason, I love training at 10th planet cuz you can bring whatever style you dig to the table, and if it's effective, you're not gonna be, like, yelled at for using it. If it could be of benefit to people, then your rolls and training partners could all be mutually beneficial relationships. My goal is to hopefully develop a style that's a mega-hybrid beastly amalgamation of styles; dangerous from anywhere, scary guard (closed, open, half, rubber, spiral, you name it) and a lot of paths, ruthless top game, great on the feet, solid judo and wrestling, devastating leg locks, great in gi and no gi, ridiculous recovery, all built on a base of having unreal GJJ style self-defense in worst case scenarios. I think one thing that makes Anderson Silva so dangerous or a lot of these really high-level elite MMA fighters are the ones that have black belts in multiple disciplines, then you see them fight and realize they've blended a lot of styles and basically create an entirely new style just based off their effectiveness. Royce was no wrestling or sambo expert, he just knew GJJ. It was good enough to win the UFC then, but the fight vs. Ryron and Barnett showed that there has to be added layers to the game. Remember that Barnett has a 2nd degree black belt from Rigan Machado, so he wasn't about to be caught in the same armbar that Royce caught Kimo in. The weight difference between Kimo and Royce was probably greater than the difference between Ryron and Barnett, in fact. AND there were punches in the mix. In any case, it never hurts to be open-minded, imo:)

I was amazed at how Keenan worked his worm guard on Xande. He set up his lapel attack by using Xande's belt to hold position until he could get control of the lapel. To do that when you know Xande has been training to stop it shows how advanced Keenan's system is. ...and Satoshi is a beast! Clark looked looked good. Especially his hair.