My profound thoughts on the subject ;)
If you want to get better at No-Gi, train No-Gi.
If you want to get better at the Gi, train with the Gi.
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My profound thoughts on the subject ;)
If you want to get better at No-Gi, train No-Gi.
If you want to get better at the Gi, train with the Gi.
Wait, wait just a minute..........r u saying that if I wanna get good at shooting free throws (for example) going to the batting cages isn't gonna help?? Crap!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
You're argument is silly. You're basing it all on sparring. What do you learn more from? Sparring or Drilling? Drilling obviously. The speed you drill at has shit to do with a gi or no gi. Perfect practice is what improves you. How would know which path is faster if you haven't experienced training only no gi?
Emir I have told you before.......just do it. Its are duty as young guns in this sport to be badass's in everything. There is always something to learn from both. I just go out and throw down no gi stuff, my gi game isn't the stongest. It's still rolling time with some really good guys.
I told you I rolled for gold in gi last Naga. i would have smoked this kid in no gi. What happend ??? I went to sleep for the first time ever with the kid (just for a second.lol.) But I learned what not to let a gi guy do to me. Stupid gi coller ....way to easy to get choked out with.lol. But i can't wait to roll with him again in gi.....I got some new tricks for his ass. Stuff I would have never worked on if I didn't take a nap.lol.
Learn as much as you can, in everything. thats my goal. If you plan on doing mma will all gi stuff work. No, but it can't hurt.
Look at it like this, I heard Joe rogan say once. Gi training alone for a cage fight, probably won't help all that much. But on the street some guy wearing a leather jacket with a nice heavy coller is looking to kick your ass. Your looking at a dead man right there.LOL.
Do it all brother...... Look for you at Naga R.I. on the 30th. I expect you to have a gi with you.lol
Man that is deep! That's some Zen shit right there. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
I have no interest in a GI or rolling with a GI on, why would rolling with a GI make me better at NO GI. Im not buying this whole its slower and easier to learn bull...we drill everything slow.
I like the gi because sometimes I'm in the mood for karate.
^This^...it's like apples and oranges, both are still fruit, however......well you get the drift :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Conner the Machine is right, Leather Jacket, Dead Man, that's one Cool fucking kid !!
i'm a computer programmer. my livelihood depends on how good i am at the computer languages i use like java. back in college, we were required to take a lot of math and physics subjects. i was like "what for?". but in the end, learning those subjects taught me values needed to be a good cp like thinking analytically. i guess gi and no-gi is like that. you train in gi to learn values, practices, or techniques that will help you in no-gi. training with the gi is like a launch pad for training without a gi. that being said, no matter how much i study math, that doesn't mean i'm gonna be a master at java. in the end what coach herzog is saying is right. if you want to get good in gi, train in gi. if you want to get good at no-gi, train in no-gi. gi and no-gi are two different animals. you can't tame one if you focus on the other. i've never grappled with the gi and so far it hasn't hindered my learning process. that's just my opinion anyways.