Street fight!!!

know what, they're right. you're better off avoiding the fight.

Chris is right. Laws have changed and you can face serious legal prosecution for "strangling" people. Check your state for how the low works.. http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/p...ationChart.pdf

Thankfully, in my state the wording requires the victim to be a household member or a boyfriend/girlfriend before it becomes a felony. In either case though, don't invite a fight, even if you handle things in a controlled manner something as safe as back control will look like a brutal strangulation to an untrained witness. You should hear the things people say when you grapple against somebody in public.

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Originally Posted by Emir Mehovic

Yeah, i dont want to hurt anyone over something stupid especially since we're kids and i'll proablably regret it later on in life.

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That is a very mature thing to say and I applaud you for that.

http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/p...ationChart.pdf
You notice how Texas is not on that list that is because in Texas its way better to get choked then the more likely scenario which is getting shot by somebody legally carrying. So street fights are not a good idea in Texas either.

It's insane that the law would prefer us to heel hook somebody with a $10,000 ACL reconstruction rather than gently putting them to sleep like a fussy baby. I'm surprised that martial artists everywhere are not protesting this.

Thank you

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Originally Posted by AndyK5

That is a very mature thing to say and I applaud you for that.

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That is crazy getting choked out wont do anything in most cases unless it is done verry often

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Originally Posted by AJ Camacho

It's insane that the law would prefer us to heel hook somebody with a $10,000 ACL reconstruction rather than gently putting them to sleep like a fussy baby. I'm surprised that martial artists everywhere are not protesting this.

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i offer only this...

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"'What is the best way to deal with force?' -disciple Caine to one of his teachers.
'As we prize peace and quiet above victory, there is a simple and preferred method.... Run away.'" - Advice to Caine

heheh

The problem with the choking issue, at least in Los Angeles is I think due to the law enforcement. My memory may be a bit weak here, but as far as I can remember, a story told by Royce Gracie, Royce used to teach RNC to the LAPD officers, most of the officers did not grasp the idea of technique and blood choke aspect of the move and kept on putting the blade of their forearm in front of people's necks crushing their trachea. After some hospital bills and lots of complaints from the public, LAPD is banned from using choke holds as an arrest procedure. The law against choke holds may have been passed or because of that incident.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

Great advise, if your an adult you'll go to jail, if you a minor your could end up in Juvenile detention (where I worked for 10 years, trust me there's not much difference). Forums are not good for legal or medical advice. Most dopes that post and give responses in such matters don't have a fucking clue what they are talking about. Bottom line avoid altercations if at all possible.

What the forums lawyers aren't telling you (because they are ignorant) is that now in most states (specifically New York) placing your hands/arms near anyone's throat during a fight/attack is a misdemeanor, and if they go unconscious its a class E felony.

Watch how well the "self defense" argument works for you, after the fact.

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Seriously??? Even if I was totally defending myself and I needed to incapacitate someone so I could escape I'd still get in trouble?

total bs