New Royler Response on Tatame

^ I know it doesn't! I would have been ok with royler simply saying no upfront for any reason, but to say yes,go back on his word, and demand 50 grand is disgraceful. I respect what the gracie family has done for martial arts, without them we would not have 10p. But I have said this before and I will say it again, the gracie name just doesnt have the stock it once did, and this lowers the stock further at least in my eyes. It doesnt help that they already have a reputation for being money hungry already, jesus their schools are expensive to attend!

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Originally Posted by Andy Lopez

The grammar errors in this make the writer and royler sound stupid. You would think being a member of a family who runs a million + dollar jiu jitsu empire would be able to keep his shit afloat until the match happens. He doesnt need the money, he is scared of what loosing to eddie twice in a row would do to his image, and is to prideful to admit that he cannot handle bravo. I seriously have no respect for royler anymore, I dont like him and I would rather be a white belt forever than go to a gracie school. No disrespect to anyone here who is a gracie student, this is my opinion and you are perfectly ok in disagreeing with me.

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Saying you're a Gracie student is like saying you're Asian. Are you Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Korean, Hmong, Taiwanese, Vietnamese???

There are more Gracies and more Gracie affiliations than you can count. Many of them are not tied to each other at all. That's such a blanket statement.

Royler is pulling a backpedal move but don't toss in a bunch of fantastic grapplers and instructors just because one guy from one part of the lineage is acting silly. They don't all run together.

All the more reason for Royler to do this. People that don't know the difference between the literal hundreds of Gracies just assume they're all the same family and think Royler reps all of them.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fk-tha...h#.Tfm9EEfE38s

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

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That must have been in Eschede... I don't see how that's hot, weird, funny, amazing or cool (filename is misleading to say the least)... Many people died.

My point exactly. Rather than keep their schools unified they have watered them down with branchoffs and you dont really know how closely tied that school is to the gracie family. you cant deny that the gracies are driven by money first, rather than really caring about spreading jj and this stunt shows that. im not saying that they have all together bad schools, I am saying that they are not worth the price tag at least the ones I have visited. And cmon you can buy a blue belt from them by ordering a dvd set, taping yourself doing a few drills and mailing it to them through gracie combatives or whatever and that is pure bull$hit.

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Originally Posted by Matthias Sieber

That must have been in Eschede... I don't see how that's hot, weird, funny, amazing or cool (filename is misleading to say the least)... Many people died.

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This whole match with Royler= Train wreck! That's all it means

Does Eddie not need to make money too... I believe he goes around doing seminars and runs a school as well ... the fact is he would have to put stuff on hold as well. for instance ... he may come here for a seminar ...but wont book until he knows if this is going to happen.... another thought ... doesn't Marcelo Garcia run a school and a web site that is updated daily ... yet he just won the worlds ... I suppose Royler either can't multi task or sacrifice a little. Both guys fighting would have to lose a little money for the potetial of making a bit of money ... but it would bring a resurgence of attention to both of them and in the long run probably make them both money. Unfortunately for Royler the attention he will gain from this if he doesn't fight now, will only be negative.

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Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge

This whole match with Royler= Train wreck! That's all it means

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Yes, thats all it means. I entered "train wreck pic" in google, this was one of the ones that popped up, I don't have anything to do with the host site.

"Lightning never strikes twice, nor kills the same horse" - May 2011

"He put me in s really bad position, man… It’s like I didn’t want to fight on the first place, and they’re pressuring me..." - June 2011

It's has to be painfully obvious to the Gracie student body that Royler's mouth wrote a check that his ass couldn't cash. My bet is that he hadn't seen any recent videos of Eddie until after he accepted & then quickly got cold feet.

What is this Mr Bravo calls this...the sorcerer? - WTF?! No thanks...

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Originally Posted by Andy Lopez

My point exactly. Rather than keep their schools unified they have watered them down with branchoffs and you dont really know how closely tied that school is to the gracie family. you cant deny that the gracies are driven by money first, rather than really caring about spreading jj and this stunt shows that. im not saying that they have all together bad schools, I am saying that they are not worth the price tag at least the ones I have visited. And cmon you can buy a blue belt from them by ordering a dvd set, taping yourself doing a few drills and mailing it to them through gracie combatives or whatever and that is pure bull$hit.

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No one, especially on Carlos's line of the family, approves of that. Renzo even went on that radio and challenged them about it.
http://www.thefightworkspodcast.com/...episode190.mp3

The "Gracie Academy" and their DVDs are scrutinized by almost everyone.