dude a great wrestler always beats a black belt
if the wrestler has decent defense
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dude a great wrestler always beats a black belt
if the wrestler has decent defense
Not always. Marcelo's tapped many a wrestler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent E.
In MMA Nog's beaten many a wrestler. Demian Maia toyed with your boy Sonnen. So has Jeremy Horn. The list is long now that I think about it. The facts prove you wrong. :)
i don't understand how you can consistently keep posting garbage during a period where half the forum are calling for your eviction
well i support both sides really they say wrestling is the best mma background to have and jiujitsu is definately an important one too but either way i think each goes hand in hand
Great thread. I think you hit it on the head when early on when you talked about the evolution of the different fighting styles. IMHO although the wrestler can be hard to deal with due to their takedowns and control I think it forces you to improve your game to overcome theirs, which for me personally is a good thing to always try to evolve and improve.
Oh yeah dude. There's a lot of evidence that shows wrestling is the best base for MMA. Some of my favorite fighters are wrestlers. I'm just saying some fighters need to learn to train to avoid getting wrestle fucked to decision. I'm not against wrestlers. I'm against styles that make for boring fights. And I'm also for balanced fights. I wanna see some more evolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by James Bell
Like I said, first BJJ ruled. Then wrestling adapted. Then strikers adapted. Now wrestling adapted again. That's why they're on top. They learned to defend subs while landing their own. They learned to use boxing to set up takedowns or get KO's of their own. Look at Cain! I just want to see the BJJ and strikers evolve again. Stir things up. I'm not anti wrestler. I'm just anti wrestlefuck styles.
Thanks man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Wade
Is this 1993? If were talking about MMA. Then were talking about Grappling and Striking. We shouldn't be talking about Jiu Jitsu vs. Wrestling. The continuing Evolution of MMA! If your a Grappler you should be combining all forms of Grappling. Judo, BJJ, 10th Planet, Freestyle wrestling, Greco roman wrestling, Sambo etc. If your just a Jiu Jitsu guy then you're Old School! Your not Evolving!!!(Gracie's)!!! Jiu Jitsu guys have to work their wrestling!!! Depending on your wrestling coach, your teammate's, how much your drilling...you can catch up and beat "most" wrestlers at their own game in MMA or at least stuff their takedowns. GSP.
Word son.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge
^ that's what I'm sayin.... or you could pull a Werdum
Well of course marcello wont lose
Neither will anderson
And chael has shit triangle defense