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and to adress the rediculas clay pigeon theory, when you shoot clay pigeons they break apart in mid flight, not after they hit the ground, that object hit the ground regained flight hit the ground again & broke apart, clay pigeons can't do that, it's so laughable when sceptics try explain away all thease events with theories that have more holes than swiss cheese. mainstream science is becoming more & more cult & religious like, while sudo scientists are the one's doing real research based off logic & with a open mind. as a result the ufo field of research grows stronger & stronger, ego makes it difficult for mainstream scientists to admit they don't know all the answers, & sudo scientists just keep there minds open and ask more questions

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Originally Posted by John Alighieri

Yeah but the problem is that a bunch of those videos are fake and it's not helping those genuine witnesses/videos.

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Ya i have to agree with that... BUT there is credible mililtary personal that have seen things even they can't explain

LOL, alright it wasn't a clay pigeon. Someone bounced a frisbee off of the ground and then blasted it with a 12 gauge.

You still do not have any evidence of alien contact. Tool marks at ancient building sites are evidence of ancient tools, not aliens. Tales of star people is not scientific fact. It's called mythology. Why do a lot of people have stories about people coming from the stars? Maybe they did not have television and sat under the stars every night pondering their existence. Drawings of helicopters? I'm sorry, did the aliens fly here in 20th century human aircraft, or was it flying saucers?

I don't know, it sounds like "rediculas" "sudo" science to me. Whatever that is...

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Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme

and to adress the rediculas clay pigeon theory, when you shoot clay pigeons they break apart in mid flight, not after they hit the ground, that object hit the ground regained flight hit the ground again & broke apart, clay pigeons can't do that, it's so laughable when sceptics try explain away all thease events with theories that have more holes than swiss cheese. mainstream science is becoming more & more cult & religious like, while sudo scientists are the one's doing real research based off logic & with a open mind. as a result the ufo field of research grows stronger & stronger, ego makes it difficult for mainstream scientists to admit they don't know all the answers, & sudo scientists just keep there minds open and ask more questions

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There are soooooooo many credible witnesses including military officials who are trained observers who have claim to have seen UFOs. Like at an American military base in the UK where 80 officers testified seeing an unidentified flying object, and 3 of them walked up to it, touched it and took notes. The British Ministry of Defense ignored them. That's just one case, there are thousands like that.

Yeah, I get that. I've watched "I Know What I Saw", and some other UFO docs. That's still not scientific evidence of alien contact. Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. That could have been an experimental military craft. The British government could have dosed those people up with LSD in some top secret experiment. Who knows? A bunch of people saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear, but that didn't actually happen.

For the record, I believe that the current body of scientific knowledge points to the fact that there should be alien life in the universe, and probably lots of it, somewhere. I just don't think we can say for sure that it has been here, yet.

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There are soooooooo many credible witnesses including military officials who are trained observers who have claim to have seen UFOs. Like at an American military base in the UK where 80 officers testified seeing an unidentified flying object, and 3 of them walked up to it, touched it and took notes. The British Ministry of Defense ignored them. That's just one case, there are thousands like that.

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Yeah, I get that. I've watched "I Know What I Saw", and some other UFO docs. That's still not scientific evidence of alien contact. Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. That could have been an experimental military craft. The British government could have dosed those people up with LSD in some top secret experiment. Who knows? A bunch of people saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear, but that didn't actually happen.

For the record, I believe that the current body of scientific knowledge points to the fact that there should be alien life in the universe, and probably lots of it, somewhere. I just don't think we can say for sure that it has been here, yet.

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LSD, lol at a nuclear armed base, like i said sceptics are often reaching for lame explanation's instead of just admitting they don't know, thats just ego

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There are soooooooo many credible witnesses including military officials who are trained observers who have claim to have seen UFOs. Like at an American military base in the UK where 80 officers testified seeing an unidentified flying object, and 3 of them walked up to it, touched it and took notes. The British Ministry of Defense ignored them. That's just one case, there are thousands like that.

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exactly who's more credible than, astronauts, military officers, police officers, military & civilian pilots, pilots with combat experience who's lives depended on them being able to identify what was in the sky with them. including my neighbor who was a recconosence pilot in viet nam, & he took pictures of 2 ufo's radioed what happened to his commander & soon as he landed his CO was at the runway & confiscated his film. he also told me Navy & Airforce pilots in those days got a briefing on ufo protocol & were told not to shoot at or chase them unless ordered too

Dude, I did admit that I don't know. I said "Who knows?" You quoted me. Remember? That's exactly what I am saying: I don't know. No one knows. That's why "mainstream scientists" are not convinced.

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LSD, lol at a nuclear armed base, like i said sceptics are often reaching for lame explanation's instead of just admitting they don't know, thats just ego

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Yeah, I get that. I've watched "I Know What I Saw", and some other UFO docs. That's still not scientific evidence of alien contact. Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. That could have been an experimental military craft. The British government could have dosed those people up with LSD in some top secret experiment. Who knows? A bunch of people saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear, but that didn't actually happen.

For the record, I believe that the current body of scientific knowledge points to the fact that there should be alien life in the universe, and probably lots of it, somewhere. I just don't think we can say for sure that it has been here, yet.

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Science changes almost daily with knowledge.

lol. This is such a great topic.

you cant change someones opinion or belief if they already have all the answers they need to hear or see. No sense getting worked up over it :)