When fighters Eat their words

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Originally Posted by Charlemange August K.

How did he eat those words. Anderson is still ducking him and anderson did get out striked and ponded and beat through chaels sheer tenacity that fight. The fact that he wrapped his legs around his head for 8 seconds doesnt mean he's tougher.

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Well in my humble opinion, the fact that Silva got his face and body pounded for over 20 minutes vs the fact that Sonnen tapped from Silva putting his legs around Sonnen's head for 8 seconds makes Silva tougher.
I can see that what Silva is saying about Sonnen not deserving another shot, but the fact that the fight was so one sided for so long would make a rematch incredibly interesting. I wanna see it happen.

When Tito said he was going to "spank" randy couture.. And then randy proceeded to fold him in half and literally spank him in front of everyone during the fight..

(Honorable mention: James Toney vs Randy Couture about how as a "real" boxer James was going to kill anyone he fought.. Then loses the fight without landing a shot.)

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Originally Posted by Charlemange August K.

How did he eat those words. Anderson is still ducking him and anderson did get out striked and ponded and beat through chaels sheer tenacity that fight. The fact that he wrapped his legs around his head for 8 seconds doesnt mean he's tougher.

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Are you really a blue belt? Do you know what jiu jitsu, submission or triangle means? Anderson Silva could have kill, let me re-write that [KILL] Chael Sonnen and break his arm for good measure. That's what triangle's do, they cut oxygen to the brain by way of closing the trachea and the veins around the neck. A bit too long in a triangle, you pass out, much longer than that, you die. That is the reason why Chael tapped. If that leg wrapping was that simple, why did Chael not ride it out till the end of the round? Chael was not even tough enough to fight the triangle/armbar until his arm broke or he passed out.

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Originally Posted by AndyK5

Are you really a blue belt? Do you know what jiu jitsu, submission or triangle means? Anderson Silva could have kill, let me re-write that [KILL] Chael Sonnen and break his arm for good measure. That's what triangle's do, they cut oxygen to the brain by way of closing the trachea and the veins around the neck. A bit too long in a triangle, you pass out, much longer than that, you die. That is the reason why Chael tapped. If that leg wrapping was that simple, why did Chael not ride it out till the end of the round? Chael was not even tough enough to fight the triangle/armbar until his arm broke or he passed out.

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Umm, a triangle does not shut off oxygen to the brain or effect the trachea in any way. Your trachea does not deliver oxygen to your brain it is the airway passage to your lungs. A triangle choke is a blood choke that reduces blood flow through the carotid arteries not veins. Veins are not oxygenated blood delivery vessels they deliver oxygen depleted blood back to the heart. Im just saying if your going to give somebody an ear beating or a text beating as it may be know what your talking about so don't sound like a dummy.

one of my favs was Nate Quarry saying he was gonna knock out Rich Franklin... I can't remember exactly what he said but I remember him describing it exactly the way he got knocked out...
http://www.fightreport.net/wp-conten...lin_quarry.gif

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

Umm, a triangle does not shut off oxygen to the brain or effect the trachea in any way. Your trachea does not deliver oxygen to your brain it is the airway passage to your lungs. A triangle choke is a blood choke that reduces blood flow through the carotid arteries not veins. Veins are not oxygenated blood delivery vessels they deliver oxygen depleted blood back to the heart. Im just saying if your going to give somebody an ear beating or a text beating as it may be know what your talking about so don't sound like a dummy.

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Snap.

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

Umm, a triangle does not shut off oxygen to the brain or effect the trachea in any way. Your trachea does not deliver oxygen to your brain it is the airway passage to your lungs. A triangle choke is a blood choke that reduces blood flow through the carotid arteries not veins. Veins are not oxygenated blood delivery vessels they deliver oxygen depleted blood back to the heart. Im just saying if your going to give somebody an ear beating or a text beating as it may be know what your talking about so don't sound like a dummy.

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I know a triangle doesn't mess with the trachea but if it doesn't stop oxygen (via the bloodstream) to the brain how does it choke you?

Cody, the triangle doesn't completely stop oxygen flow to the brain, it just restricts it. The carotid arteries do give oxygenated blood to the brain. That's why pulling the head down to restrict the airway alongside the restriction of blood will render your opponent unconscious, and that's why some people can stay in triangles as long as they still have that airflow and posture.

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Originally Posted by Jay Chow

Cody, the triangle doesn't completely stop oxygen flow to the brain, it just restricts it. The carotid arteries do give oxygenated blood to the brain. That's why pulling the head down to restrict the airway alongside the restriction of blood will render your opponent unconscious, and that's why some people can stay in triangles as long as they still have that airflow and posture.

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But you can render someone unconscious without pulling on the head...right?

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Originally Posted by Jay Chow

Cody, the triangle doesn't completely stop oxygen flow to the brain, it just restricts it. The carotid arteries do give oxygenated blood to the brain. That's why pulling the head down to restrict the airway alongside the restriction of blood will render your opponent unconscious, and that's why some people can stay in triangles as long as they still have that airflow and posture.

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Not really pulling down on the head increases carotid pressure maximizing the effectiveness of the choke. A strong blood choke can put you out in less than 10 sec. But you can last over a minute with complete airway restriction. Think about it how long can you hold your breath?