How important is strength and conditioning to YOU?

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10-16-2012, 03:16 PM
bobby rivers

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

The arguments lie in how and to what extent.

disclaimer* Respectfully. Would never argue with Eddie. I only learn.
10-17-2012, 06:47 AM
Charles II

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

My strength training is HUGE to me. I started up hard last year and it's made a MONSTER difference. Anyone trying to make a living with jiu jitsu MUST ad a strength training program to their weekly training routine. Unless you train jiu jitsu 6 times a week twice a day like Marcelo, it's gonna be a long dark journey if you don't take your strength seriously. I wouldn't have done what I did in ADCC without the strength training I went thru :)

The man has spoken, welcome to the convo big dawg.
10-17-2012, 09:29 AM
chronic_jiujitsu

Im not sure if there is a definite answer to this. I think it just depends on the person. I guess the best way to answer this question would be to take a step back and ask yourself "In what specific areas would strength be beneficial in jiujitsu?"..

When you break it down to each individual technique, i think the point of jiujitsu is to allow the smaller/weaker opponent, to perform any of these moves on a stronger opponent. But at the same time, I think we can all agree that there ARE certain times that strength might be beneficial. (trying to posture up when someone is pulling down on you)

So like most people said, I dont think its REQUIRED to be great.. But if you plan on competing in high level tournaments, eventually its going to come into play.. Just depends what your goals are I suppose
10-17-2012, 09:48 AM
Josh Passini

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

There is no doubt that was super impressive Josh. And yeah only the insanely good would not just get mauled by that kind of power and endurance.

Just not my flavor. Too mundane. Intense as fuck! But boring. Plus all that energy expended, and although much is gained. What is learned?

Ive been vocal about my favorite way to crosstrain since I joined this forum. Now FreakShow came along and validated it. I know for a fact it was the key factor in my success and has accelerated my progression in jj exponentially. Bboy Atn has a style similar to mine(he's waaay better more powerful in his tech) when I just feel like body movin or s&c.https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=1QV7ia8XvJw

Different flavor. Just a video that was cool and to showcase what my guys go through on the reggie. I think bboy, yoga, caperio(Spelling),parkour, barstarr-esq workouts, all have weight as well but these are not organized with athletic progression like crossfit. But i Love all that shit. Also I do not program myself 100% of the time. A colleague of mine programs my conditioning. Everyone needs an expert/specialist to take them to the next level.

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Originally Posted by sean applegate

im with bobby on that. crossfit is cool. i just get so bored with the same mundane things. surfing really helps me. its fun and its an unbelievable workout. i can honestly say my clinch wouldnt be half what it is without surfing.

Cool, No Ocean though in Chicago :(

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

My strength training is HUGE to me. I started up hard last year and it's made a MONSTER difference. Anyone trying to make a living with jiu jitsu MUST ad a strength training program to their weekly training routine. Unless you train jiu jitsu 6 times a week twice a day like Marcelo, it's gonna be a long dark journey if you don't take your strength seriously. I wouldn't have done what I did in ADCC without the strength training I went thru :)

One of the main reasons I push so hard. I listen to those who have lived trough the Fire. Knowing that I will not be misled. Also knowing that My guys are the face of 10th Planet in Chicago. We need to be stronger, faster, smarter, more skillful, more humble, tougher, better ambassadors, and have nastier ears than the other schools. This continued drive and amazing team is what has allowed us to accomplish so in such a short time. To be a contender in a major market with schools that are lead by black belts that have been black belts before we knew what jj was.
10-17-2012, 09:50 AM
Josh Passini

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Originally Posted by chronic_jiujitsu

Im not sure if there is a definite answer to this. I think it just depends on the person. I guess the best way to answer this question would be to take a step back and ask yourself "In what specific areas would strength be beneficial in jiujitsu?"..

When you break it down to each individual technique, i think the point of jiujitsu is to allow the smaller/weaker opponent, to perform any of these moves on a stronger opponent. But at the same time, I think we can all agree that there ARE certain times that strength might be beneficial. (trying to posture up when someone is pulling down on you)

So like most people said, I dont think its REQUIRED to be great.. But if you plan on competing in high level tournaments, eventually its going to come into play.. Just depends what your goals are I suppose

There definitely is no black or white answer, just what works best for each individual.
10-17-2012, 03:25 PM
bobby rivers

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Originally Posted by Josh Passini

but these are not organized with athletic progression like crossfit.

Dude.. Seriously? Explain please
10-17-2012, 03:36 PM
bobby rivers

If complete control over your body, hips, and balance during insanely fast transitions isn't athletic progression, what is?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5eBo2Mrp18

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