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Thats cool. I dont really care what you think(no offence). If I did care I wouldnt be put this out there at all because, it sounds crazy. I only put stuff out there for the few that experience the weird stuff and let them know that it happens to other people to. You might not be searching good enough. I'd love to search for you and debate this but it could be a waste of time. I dont know how your mind works. For all I know you could be in the class of people that have these types of things happen to them but still find ways to think its not possible. If I wasnt working overtime hours like crazy lately to pay for future training fun I would fish some stuff out of the interwebs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Its kinda like trying to talk an atheist into believing in a religion or a very religious person into believing in atheism, or talking to someone about something not yet proven by scientific method about something there is no way to test yet because many scientist think it shouldnt exist anyway. There sometimes are blinders up because a hardcore belief system is already in place. I understand your positional outlook. I had the same view once. It took a long time of a gradual progression of disbelief - into not taking a position on things I cant prove of disprove - into being drawn into meditation type stuff to calm my thoughts down - into weird stuff happening every once and a while and writing them down - into things happening so often it was pointless to worry about writing anything down - into reading more books always searching for something, but I didnt know what I was looking for, but I knew there was something going on - even into getting sucked back into the blissful state of ignorance and love of attachments that I worked so hard to get rid of, even after all things I had learned over the years slowly spiraling into self destruction and not caring about anything - into falling back down mentally further than when I started, but It kinda helped me realize how many mistakes I was doing before that were unnoticed. Some of this probably sounds really vague, but I know there are a few people that know what Im taking about. Anyway what I was trying to get at was I didnt wanna believe any weird sounding stuff existed unless I somehow experienced it to, but it took a state of not believing or disbelieving but realizing people having similar experiences must mean something so maybe I stick my toe in the rabbit hole to check the temperature.
Just writing this already took up too much time. Screw searching for things for people on the net. I tried searching for stuff on a subject the other day that popped up easily in 2006 that now I cant find at all threw searching. I was just bombarded with pages crap.
Believe what you want. I dont make or lose money of you either way. I just put out there things I know happen to me. Maybe over the next couple days I'll remember were I posted the last article I read on them testing feeling someone looking at you. It was just a couple months ago
You could also be a professional internet troll. I dont know. If you are than well done sir :-)
Yeah , I just tried google. I found some stuff on it but they all showed people cant tell when other are staring at them. I dont really have a "positional outlook" in general but on this particular topic, I think the best way to "predict" future events is to collect relevant data and analyze it using the methods accepted by science.
Reading cards, bones, entrails, crystal balls, palms = bullshit.
Mayan prophecy = racist and embarrassing bullshit.
Who would pay the wages of a professional internet troll? (I like how you specified internet troll so I wouldn't think your talking about the kind that live under bridges.)
Since when does having common sense make you a troll?
What do you think is going to happen, if anything, on december whatever it is?
this pretty much summed it up for me, if NASA say's we're cool, then we're cool right?
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html
That would be the case for most of us but of course some people believe NASA is corrupted or evil. Chemtrail believers must believe that NASA is involved (as well as NOAA) for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulmma101
was just joking about the troll thing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Cool, So do you think anythings to happen? I never did understand what exactly was supposed to happen anyway.
So here is what I found with a few minutes of looking. There is no official name for this as far as I know, so it probably makes it harder to search for thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
This guy patented a machine to pick up energy emitted from the eyes and is supposed to be writing a book about his findings
http://www.rossinst.com/human_eyebeam_detection.html
I think I read this a while back
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...e-watching-you
Just some extra. The top answer guy talking about his researching this matches up with stuff Ive come up with personally on the subject
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...7073047AAaHDBW
We all morph into Dolphicorns. Dolphins with horse legs and a horn coming out of our forehead. At least I think that is what Nostradamus saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Dolphicorns?? Awww man, I had it backwards. Time to toss out my "welcome to our new Uniphin overlords" sign
so, any updates of craziness? or are we waiting for it to hit midnight in Mexico?
Its nearly 2 am here and its just raining like usual. Carry on.
the "Dr." Ross guy completely full of shit and the yahoo guy is just plain stupid. Best awnser 14% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marshall
The article you link to in psychology today was really interesting though. Of course they are dealing with instances where you can pick up the person who is staring at you in your peripheral vision so no type of esp involved.
Can people sense when other are staring at them? it seems that the answer is yes if they can see the person staring at them in their peripheral vision. Not exactly a shocker and no special mind powers required.
You notice this was a big thing a couple years ago. Now that embarrassment is hours away instead of months only the craziest fucks are still claiming to believe in this crap.
I guess I shouldve done nothing like I thought. I just put up the best stuff I found on page 1 of a search, after you say you could find nothing. Just because you cant do it doesnt mean it cant be done, but if you dont understand it, then it must be magic nonsense. No one said anything about esp. Dr Ross might say that you are full of shit. The peripheral vision statement is just nonsense. Now you really seem like a troll. Classic troll move is to type out a misunderstanding of something and mixing up and adding ideas, words, and phrases to illicit a response. Not saying you are an internet troll, you just act like oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
What you think is common sense would actually be jumping to conclusions in a subject you have no experience in. You jump to a guess that makes you feel comfortable. Nice science you've got there
Is anyone dead yet???????
This is funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
Fuck yeah Im dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mejia
Ok, calm down. I didn't know doctor ross was your daddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marshall
I did a quick google search, you did a quick google search, we both came up with nothing, like you said it doesnt mean there is not info out there on it. You did say it was accepted by the scientific community though so that should be easily demonstrated.
Dr.ross can say whatever he wants, i wouldn't give a shit, the guy has mental problems, thats why his ideas are limited to his website which he attempts to masquerade as an academic institution.
"No one mentioned anything about esp" Are you seriously backpedaling now to the extent that you are going to say you weren't proposing any type of unknown sensory ability is involved in sensing when people are staring at you? Thats some mighty thick bullshit.
Let me refresh your short and selective memory,
I wrote,
"Look dude, if you can see the future or use the force or some shit you need to clue the rest of us in."
Your response,
The peripheral vision aspect is straight from the only legit link you posted and unaltered. Sounds like you didnt read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marshall
I'm not applying the scientific method here nor am I in the position to do so, financially or time wise. Nor did I ever state or imply that I was researching this topic in a scientific context. The fact that you think it would even be possible for me to be researching this in a manner fitting accepted scientific methods is a dead give away that you dont have the foggiest clue about how science is done.
The possibility of cool shit like unknown mind powers doesnt make me uncomfortable in the least, I'd love for this stuff to be true, doesnt mean I'm willing to believe in what ever sounds cool.
Your tone makes it seem like you think I'm being unreasonable. WTF? Someone doesnt go right along with your mystical beliefs and their a troll?
Holy crap. I found this guys paper on people sending signals with electromagnetic eye beams. Hilarious methods. No statistical analysis of data. Freaky out-of-this-world conclusion.
http://www.rossenergysystems.com/Dow...tramission.pdf
Hell of a conclusion for an experiment with a single test subject. LMFAO!
Whelp no need for this thread anymore
I dont care about the guy. Just said he might say the same about you. I think thats fair. I could rebuttal back and forth with you, but truth is Ive experienced it myself and just posted some quick stuff. Seems like you just waited for me to post something so you could call it crap. Personally experiences of many is what seems to be the level of science with most things not well known. Shouldnt have wasted my time like I thought. My fault for trying to find some articles that use limited science research. I already know it happens to myself, and others have done it to me. I dont need a label on my coffee telling me its hot. Keep waiting on our super advanced science to figure everything out for you. Doenst really matter what you think, because you can just go to college, memorize a bunch of things and go make money in some field of work, get married, have kids, and live life with or without any esp knowledge. Wont hurt your quality of life at all. You were right about the esp comment the second time anyway, I realized it after I shut my computer off and was ready to go to sleep but didnt care to change it. Lets me know not to battle trolls at the end of my day, which is what started all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Tone is easily misunderstood over the internet unless you use CAPS, or you would know I was trying to be nice. Ive already stated what makes you troll like but like a troll you added some words and change the meanings of statements.
You taught me a god thing though. In the future I'll just stick to my own experiences to explain things that seem mythical and magical and compare them with what others experience. I got caught up in some sort of show me the science, oh thats crap trap. Sorry bout the whole troll thing, you often do use a common sense approach in many posts(not all), but I dont think you realize the troll tactics you sometimes use
http://youtu.be/Z0GFRcFm-aYQuote:
Originally Posted by Chauncey Nu'usolia
Sorry everyone died today :/
I was really looking forward to getting in some more training, but alas...we all died.
This sucks.
Ok we didn't die and its just another Friday....so go and train.....
I guess the stuff that I think is probably true was all figured out by other people so I dont get offended when its called into question. I do required evidence of a certain type or quantity before I'm willing to say, ok thats seems to be the best explanation for something.
If your views cant be supported by science, then yes, you dont want to get into a show me the science type debate, however, most intelligent and educated people require that type of discourse to change what they think.
I just started using forums recently even though I'm 30, but to me a troll is something completely different,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
I do have a diffident opinion but I cant see that I misinterpreted or put a spin on anything you posted. Basically I just try to break down what you write into separate ideas and respond to each one.
I dont think less of people because they have some ideas I think are crazy. Eddie seems to believe in chemtrails which I think are ridiculous and embarrassing but I still idolize the guy pretty much and I dont think less of him. In a scientific way of thinking you have to admit that any alternate answer is possible even if the possibility is so small its immeasurable, that means your current ideas could be wrong so you cant really think less of people that think (or believe) something else.
Sorry I misinterpreted you tone and was insulting.
Respect.
Bruce knows what's up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
Oh really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/201...piracy-theory/
http://www.countercurrents.org/murphy030310.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/murphy240310.htm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
If you're going to fling around words like "ridiculous" or "embarrasring" when discussing other people's opinions on serious topics such as Chemtrails, vaccinations, genetic modification of food, the global police state, etc, you should at least do some research on it to make sure you don't embarrass yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by The second link in I put above this post
Someone has yet to, in detail explain to me how a chem trail operation works.
Science and the science community does not bite the hand that feeds. The Universities and the Scientific communities at large will only push agendas that are favorable to the New World Order. Their funding is largely provided by well known secret societies. You're not going to find "mainstream" info or proof about Chemtrails because that info is carefully guarded. So you will only find alternative media outlets and whatnot. That makes all your info easily discredited by people like Aaron, because your sources are not "vetted" by the scientific community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marshall
They are just another tool in the NWO's back pocket.
I personally don't give a flying fuck about what the scientific community has to say about ANYTHING that has to do with the NWO agenda. There people still can't explain gravity. They make formulas up that have "inconsistent constants" to explain dark matter and all sorts of horse shit.
It's laughable.
Wait how are u a secret society if you are known?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-q6nPaCEAAtssP.jpg:largeQuote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
Good luck. Ive asked here before but I think people are already sick of talking about it so, no replies. Tried Google but there are tons of different versions of what people think re; chemtrials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman
So how are you coming on explaining gravity? Pretty sure you would never get a fraction of the way that physics has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
I don't think people are sick of it, I think people can't explain it. I don't want to argue I have an open mind. If I get a compelling explanation it may sway me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
I'm not looking for how the chemicals work or anything like that either. I'm looking for the logistics behind the operation
I have done some "research" on it, if you count surfing the web while stoned. Seems like form the links you posted that should be grade A research in your eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
You sound like a paranoid delusional. If you believe the entire scientific community is part off some kind of worldwide conspiracy then their is no way to present evidence contrary to your point. We might as well be discussing the existence of santa clause.
This is hilarious. Embarrassment is all yours bro.
-I just though no one answered me because they all ready had the conversation a couple years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman
-What do you mean by "they cant explain it"?
-How is arguing contrary to having an open mind? You have to debate the point of any idea to determine its validity.
-Of course we're stuck at trying to figure out what the idea even is.
I cant even figure out what their supposed to be doing? is it chemicals for population control, weather modification or making the ground infertile for crops? some people even think they are putting chemicals in the air to make it easier to summon certain spiritual beings.
I still think they are spraying for chupacabra and it seems to be working, you notice there are no more chupaabra sightings. (joking)
Well to get t o the core of things an argument is attempting to force someone else to believe what you believe, I don't want that I would rather have a dialogue. A dialogue being an instance where a group of people share their thoughts and feelings on a subject. It sounds silly like semantics but it's really quite different . The key to dialogue is an open mind and an attempt to learn from one another, where as an argument really truly is just forcing your opinion on somebody else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Edit: Sorry the voice to text on my phone butchered some word there.