Damn that site is deeeeeeeep. Damn. I'm no longer on the fence. Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Sales
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Damn that site is deeeeeeeep. Damn. I'm no longer on the fence. Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Sales
already stated below
i see it's back up. Lloyd Irvin was able to get that site taken down for a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
IBJJF has no problems with TLI. There won't be any banning. As far as the 89 incident, it was not a train gone wrong. They threatened to throw her off the balcony if she didn't comply. A doctor found evidence from a rape kit that it was rape (because it was.) Here are testimonies from the trial. Read away if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
http://articles.dailypress.com/1990-...rape-case-girl
http://articles.dailypress.com/1991-...arrant-charged
http://articles.dailypress.com/1990-...en-young-woman
http://articles.dailypress.com/1990-...e-case-two-men
http://articles.dailypress.com/1991-...ton-university
http://articles.dailypress.com/1991-...orm-room-trial
please post it here in case I miss it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
yeah it was rape, the bloody lip says it all. Karma is richous bitch though, and all this shit comming out is just Karma's way of paying Lloyd Irvin back. " what a pieace of shit " what's really fucked up is those dudes only got 7-10 years and they'll get out in 5 and just do it again. Meanwhile I can get 10-15 years for a non violent drug offense " whats the bigger crime ? " the american justice system is fuckin disgusting. It should be legal to kill all rapist and child molesters if proven guilty there just wild dogs that need to be put down. and contrary to belief they don't always get a broom up the ass in jail and often they live just fine in jail, so rarely is justice actually served
Shits getting REAL for ol' Lloyd. Just saw this...
This was just posted on Facebook:
JORDAN SCHULTZ STATEMENT
Recently a fellow team member came to me she was burdened and confused. She sought me out as a confidante a person she could trust. She had been battling with a situation morally inside her head. She explained the details of secret interactions she had with her martial arts instructor and employer.
She started with the question “Are you suppose to do anything to become a World Champion?” I replied, “Yes, there are sacrifices you must make to become a World Champion and you are going to have to do some things that other people won’t do to become a World Champion”. She began to cry as she explained.
She said that when she first joined the team she was given a set of rules. She was told exactly how she should act. Everyone on the team follows the principle of the Android. An Android does what they are commanded with no question and no hesitation. Whatever the Programmer says the Android does. According to the Martial Arts instructor this correlates to Martial Arts if the coach gives a commanded and the athlete hesitates or questions for a moment it can cost them the match. That is the importance of being an Android.
Second rule, your word is your bond. If you do not keep your word you are a liar. If you do not follow what you say you are a faker. If you do not keep your word you are definitely not serious about what you are trying to accomplish.
Third rule, confidentiality whatever you talk about with your instructor stays only between you and your instructor it is a form of trust. She explained the Instructor has been deceived and hurt a lot in the past so it was difficult to prove your trust and loyalty to your instructor.
When first coming to the team her instructor automatically judged her, told her that “I have a weird feeling that you are lying and you do not want to be a world champion, you came for alterior motives”
I noticed that the woman was always getting scolded or on thin ice with my martial arts instructor. She always seemed to be messing up tasks that were given to her as her job. She always seemed afraid that she was going to be kicked off the team and sent home. Every team member that comes from another state can be kicked off the team and sent home at any time. Any member of the team will confirm this. This is a consequence that looms over all the athletes.
At one point I thought she really was being sent home.
She had been trying to tell me, and others. She asked us hypothetical questions like “would you do ANYTHING to be a world champion” and she’d tell me she did some things she wouldn’t normally do but her instructor asked her to do it and he said she was proving he can trust her. She explained the things she did for her instructor was a test to see if she would really do anything to be a world champion. That she would keep her word to him and do anything he asked her to do. And she would do it without hesitation to prove her loyalty and that she was an android. I always thought it was something different, like she messed with someone’s credit card or something but I was so wrong.
Her instructor would both ask and instruct her to do sexually inappropriate things with him. Re-affirming his instructions with things like “I thought you said you wanted to be a world champion, and you said you would do anything I tell you to do without hesitation”. He would make her repeat to him over and over that she loved him like a script.
If she ever hesitated or questioned he would call her a liar and say that she didn’t really want to become a world champion and she wasn’t serious about her goals.
This activity went on for a couple months and then he asked her is she would give herself to him sexually, and if she would have sexual intercourse with him.
That’s when she broke down and came to me she was so wrapped up and confused about the tests and hazing she came to me for guidance. And I am happy she did so that nothing else bad happened to her.
What he has asked of her and made her do is disgusting and abusive. I am so grateful she came to me and I was able to open her eyes.
To explain to her that it was wrong, that she did not have to do those things to prove she really wanted to be a world champion.
I think, but cannot confirm that there are other victims on the team. I would see the instructor sleeping in the same hotel room in the same bed at tournaments with other female teammates. Multiple teammates have also been called to his room to give him massages alone together with him in a hotel room, which I always thought was a little inappropriate considering he is there Martial Arts Instructor.
I trained with the team for over a year. 6 months into my stay there I was offered a unpaid mentorship as his internet assassin, and I would be trained to do internet marketing.
The rules on the team were “no inter team dating” and “you always follow instructions 100%” now that I think about it, both rules together breed the perfect environment for the martial arts instructor to take advantage of his female students sexually. Dangle the dream of being a world champion in front each member of the team to control their every move.
The instructor never did anything to me, the training environment was not the healthiest at times, but I was never harmed. And I cannot speak for other male members, but each has their own story. In addition several of my teammates have left the environment within hours of hearing the story I told them. This confirms that each of them had their own suspicions of what was going on.
I was in charge of a project to make several websites, with the soul purpose of covering up the google search results of keywords.
I now realize that it was wrong to do that. And people need to be informed before they choose to associate with the instructor.
I apologize to the female team member and the other female team members I have spoken about. I had to break her trust and warn others about the situation. She confided in me and was not ready to tell anyone about it. But as my moral responsibility the world needs to know. And I encourage anyone who has been affected or controlled by Lloyd Irvin to speak out.
In closing, I have left the team for good, I have ended all ties with team lloyd Irvin and will never have anything to do with it again in any capacity. I came to the team
thinking it would be the best thing for me, plenty of good training partners, hard training, and to learn marketing. I was a fool, and I apologize to anyone that may have been affected by my actions while on the team.
Jordon Schultz
Schultz comes off as a self serving slimeball. So while this might be true, I can't help but feel like he's just coming out with it to keep his name relevant.
Toxic environment. Lloyd has some Chinese olympic team regime shit going on over there. Wish all the athletes the best and hope they get out of that place asap. :-(
If that story is true, Lloyd Irvin is going to jail if they come forward. That is disgusting, what piece of shit takes advantage of his students trust and respect like that?! He is completely pissing on everything the Master/Student relationship stands for. He is a blight on this martial art, this sport and as a human being. I don't want to believe someone is doing this to other people, but why when I look at Lloyd Irvin in the back on my head do I think, "You are a piece of shit." I hated him when I found out he charges $1,500 AN HOUR for private lessons. Royce Gracie only charges $300 for fucksake. Now I got an even bigger reason to not like this prick.
Wow, I go to bed, wake up and this thread has gone crazy!
The shit coming out on LLoyd is messed up, and although there is definitely something sleezy about him, I pray that it isn't true. Not because I like him but to think someone in the jiu jitsu world would be so deceiving and prey on there own students is sickening and quite frankly, very scary.
The internet has a way of getting the truth out there so one way or another in this case, I feel justice will be served. The truth will come to light and Lloyd will get what he deserves.
This happens a lot in the martial arts world. Its just usually a Karate or Taekwondo Instructor.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulmma101
it is true. The fighter house is empy, and everyone is gone. You'll find out a lot more in the days to come. It is only just beggining...Jordon has definitely been a scummy dude, but I think he did the right thing here.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
Wow the dude is a streight up sexual preditor. even though those girls are grown women and a little stupid & naive to let him get away with that shit. just for a "silly ass medal" he's still a preditor. & birds of a feather tend to flock together that's why he attracted so many scummy dudes like Jordan Shultz to his camp. I always wondered why people called him " Master " lioyd Irvin and if he actually earned that title but obviously not.
If anyone is in Maryland or knows anyone. This is going on all martial arts forums
From Sherdog...
"On the advice of the Prince George's County Police Sexual Assault Unit, I am going to post this publicly.
The situation has been reported to them with as much relevant detail that I currently know -- to include the allegations of sexual assault on a girl as young as 14. This has all been noted, and the police will be familiar with the situation if any victims are willing to come forward.
However, victims will need to come forward personally in this situation. An official police report cannot be filed until this happens. The officer I spoke with stressed how important it was that ALL victims come forward because it will greatly help the investigation.
The officer also stressed that there is nothing for the victims to fear. There are procedures in place to protect any victims that come forward. Everyone in the Sexual Assault Unit was very helpful and understanding. They are professionals and will help all of the victims obtain justice.
They asked that I provide their direct line for any victims to come forward. That number is 301-772-4908. Again, this is the direct line to the Prince George's County Police Sexual Assault Unit, so you won't have to wait while going through the dispatcher. Just reference the situation here, and they will know what you are talking about.
Please repost this in the other forums if you can."
Read on theUG that the fighter house emptied over night. All the members got together and left in the middle of the night.
Sounds like Lloyd wont be paying back that $300k he owes to the IRS any time soon.
http://therealplayerlifestyle.com/ this site of Lloyds is probably the most fucking retarded thing I have ever seen.
Stuff like -
For The First Time Ever, Master Lloyd Irvin Jr. Is Sharing His ONE PERSONAL Secret Money Making SECURITY BLANKET (A Secret Almost NOBODY Knows, Even In His Own Inner Circle) A Secret He's Kept Hidden... A Secret He’s Revealing ONE TIME At His “Players ONLY Party” In Las Vegas
'This Is Your ONE Opportunity To Have A 100% REAL “SuperPower”
“Installed” Inside Your Brain
A SuperPower Not ONE Of Your Competitors Can Hang With.'
He purchased an ad in Forbes, and now advertising that he has been 'featured' in Forbes Magazine.
This part is 'golden' too haha -
"So that’s the answer to the question most likely asked at this point. How much is the “cover charge” for this “Players Only” Event? Mr. X made it CLEAR in his email, no rif raf… No posers. And a 100k price tag should do it. This event on March 26-28 in Vegas isn’t about numbers for me its about sharing the most valuable tool I own and having the biggest copywriting badass on planet earth download his skills into your brain. $100k it is.
But Unfortunately….
Of all my subscribers I think maybe 10 could write that 100k check today. And THEY already are slated to be AT the event. They’re REAL Players, and they didn’t need to know “how much”. As private and as “hidden” as Mr. X likes to think he is, fact is that people talk, and word gets around our little community… they heard X was going to be there teaching and they dropped EVERYTHING…"
Also this supposed email from his mentor is actually a save draft, he wrote it himself lol
http://i47.tinypic.com/348hceo.png
:-)
Damn I knew the whole I'll make you a black belt in 30 days thing was crazy. and who asks for 100 thousand dollars for a siminar ?
It’s official!
Keenan Cornelius just confirmed to GRACIEMAG.com that he will be training with Andre Galvão, the Mendes Brothers and will be competing at the upcoming Boston Open and Pan Championship under the flag of Atos JJ.
When asked, Keenan wrote: “I don’t know how officially joining a team works but I don’t really want to jump into another team without really getting a feel for the coach. For obvious reasons. I do still need to register for competitions so I am asking professor Galvao if I can do that for the Boston Open and Pan.“
Earlier this week, we have talked with Andre Galvão and Guilherme Mendes about the contact with Keenan.
Gui told us that it was Keenan who first got in touch: “I later called him and we talked a bit”, said Mendes, making sure that at that point (last Wednesday) nothing was 100% sure.
Galvão said almost the same thing: “He got in touch with me. I don’t know him personally very well but he seems to be a upright kid besides being obviously a very ggod athlete and competitor. If he complies with the rules of our team like everybody else, he will be very welcome to train with us.”
http://www.graciemag.com/2013/03/kee...under-atos-jj/
Wooo, I'm going to be working at the Boston Open for the day. Getting paid to watch my teammates compete as well as Keenan's first competition as a member of Atos? Score!
fuck yeah!!! :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by jack labarge
Those video's of his matches @ this upcoming Boston open are sure as shit going to get a whole bunch of hits on youtube. Seems like people are super pumped to see Keenan compete for that team. :-)
this guy just sounds like a con artist, amoral to the point of insanity. I thought this story was pretty much over a while ago when he finally posted up an apology and with such a lot of media control, i dont want to condemn without seeing physical proof. but if its at all true, even the tiniest bit, thats disgustingQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Spalla
And kyle i jsut checked heres the link
http://www.lloydirvin.com/adult/bjj/lessons.htm
its a minimum of $1500 for a private, its $1800 for an hour with leg locks and a ridiculous $2500 for combat jiu jitsu instruction. I shit you not.
from the website
Privates with Lloyd Irvin should be made at least 4-6 weeks in advance due to his schedule. If you are in town on a last minute notice you can call to see if any pre-scheduled time slots have opened up. There is no guarantee that you’ll be able to get a private lesson on short notice.
There are no volume discounts for private lessons. Week long intensive group trainings for private corporations start at $20,000.
this guy is seriously on an ego trip, sounds like he thinks he is god of all things jiu jitsu.
in support of that schultz guys thing i found this, mix those two together and it sounds pretty bad
http://www.lloydirvin.com/adult/bjj/BlackBeltClub.htm
theres pretty much a club that you have to go into if u want your black belt, and then there is a secret group inside the club called soldiers of submission. no details about it but if u have the desire to be a true champion, you have to join.
this just screams WRONG
haha my coach is a Brazilian dude, very open minded, super legit 2nd or 3rd degree black belt (Valmyr Neto VNteam/Checkmat) and I can get an hour private with him for like $50/$60. I know he is not as 'famous' as Lloyd Irvin, but Lloyd sure as shit couldn't show me $1500 worth of extra information than Neto in an hour. Plus Neto is an awesome dude and an incredible coach, and most importantly a decent human being that often puts his team before himself. That is a coach I want to be around. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac Atley
$1500-$2500 for a 1 hour private lesson is fucking crazy. :-)
Like I said, piece of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac Atley
Gossip has it JT Torres also moved to Atos
Yeah Galvao just tweeted welcoming them both to the team. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge
On the Next Episode of Medal Chasers: Nothing.
I don't think it is an ego trip as much as he just doesn't want to do private lessons anymore. Eddie brings up people doing it in one podcast and I heard the same thing from someone else and the person isn't even associated with TLI. Not to say he doesn't have an ego, but that probably isn't the reason for his ridiculous pricing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac Atley
The reason Master Lioyd Irvin charges so much for his incredible private lessons is because he shows the 5 point palm exploding heart technique. and only a select few are worthy of learning that technique.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. About that screenshot of the email, he's edited his website
(some people have written asking me after I posted this ‘why its a DRAFT of an email?’
I asked Mr. CrazyPants the same question…
well now you get to see even moreso why he’s such a pain in the ASS
and that truth really is stranger than fiction…
He typed out the email on his laptop, crossed out his name and email addy and
turned it into a .jpg and sent it to me in a BLANK email.
I was like “WTF bro?” and he told me he didn’t want to send it as
an email because someone might “intercept it”… REALLY!?
Trust me he’s worth the hassle but he’s full-on loony toons.)
I feel bad for any fool who is paying $100k for this. Dude is worse than a televangelist.
lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by kyle spalla
Not to beat a dead horse, but apparently someone messed with his wikipedia page. It's already been changed back. But it was fun while it lasted.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/991efa8ab...bfqro1_500.jpg
Its official JT is with Atos now also
Bloody hell, who the hell is left on the team now? Really shock that Nyjah Easton didn't leave yet.
Lol!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
André Galvão was coming home from training earlier this week when he received a message on his phone.
It was Keenan Cornelius. “We started to exchange messages then. Only today did we talk on the phone.”
The brown belt was asking Andre if he could go down to California to train at Atos JJ. His relationship with Team Lloyd Irvin had just ended: “I didn’t ask him the details of all that happened, but I’m sure that it was something very serious for Keenan and the others to decide to leave. Once Team Lloyd Irvin was very strong and united,” Galvão told GRACIEMAG.com.
After Keenan, another message arrived; this time was black belt Jonathan “JT” Torres. “He is also welcome here. Jordon Schultz and another fighter are also coming,” said André.
The leader of Atos JJ says his doors are open but makes sure that anyone who comes will have to follow his rules: “I’m still going to talk to them as soon as they arrive, but I already told him that we have our rules and they need to be followed. After all they went through, I want them here to look ahead and leave the past behind.”
JT and Keenan, according to Galvão, will be living in San Diego and training mainly with him and his team, but some trips to Costa Mesa, where the Mendes Bros have an academy, are a possibility: “Every Jiu-Jitsu fighter has it’s own game and I hope that they brings a lot of new things to our game at the same time as we help them grow.”
Galvão, who is in Indiana teaching a seminar, says Keenan will train for the first time with Atos next week and JT some days later. A good host, Galvão is doing everything he can for the two to have a warm welcome: “I already told my students to send messages to them giving the welcome. Our focus now needs to be on the training once we have a lot of important championships ahead.”
http://www.graciemag.com/2013/03/gal...to-the-future/
André Galvão was coming home from training earlier this week when he received a message on his phone.
It was Keenan Cornelius. “We started to exchange messages then. Only today did we talk on the phone.”
The brown belt was asking Andre if he could go down to California to train at Atos JJ. His relationship with Team Lloyd Irvin had just ended: “I didn’t ask him the details of all that happened, but I’m sure that it was something very serious for Keenan and the others to decide to leave. Once Team Lloyd Irvin was very strong and united,” Galvão told GRACIEMAG.com.
After Keenan, another message arrived; this time was black belt Jonathan “JT” Torres. “He is also welcome here. Jordon Schultz and another fighter are also coming,” said André.
The leader of Atos JJ says his doors are open but makes sure that anyone who comes will have to follow his rules: “I’m still going to talk to them as soon as they arrive, but I already told him that we have our rules and they need to be followed. After all they went through, I want them here to look ahead and leave the past behind.”
JT and Keenan, according to Galvão, will be living in San Diego and training mainly with him and his team, but some trips to Costa Mesa, where the Mendes Bros have an academy, are a possibility: “Every Jiu-Jitsu fighter has it’s own game and I hope that they brings a lot of new things to our game at the same time as we help them grow.”
Galvão, who is in Indiana teaching a seminar, says Keenan will train for the first time with Atos next week and JT some days later. A good host, Galvão is doing everything he can for the two to have a warm welcome: “I already told my students to send messages to them giving the welcome. Our focus now needs to be on the training once we have a lot of important championships ahead.”
http://www.graciemag.com/2013/03/gal...to-the-future/