I like rolling with everyone.
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I like rolling with everyone.
The burdens a southern gentleman must indure, we keep the hope of dixie alive with the thought of St. Pierre, a goat , my cousin Teddy holding a 2x4 while jed plays foggy mountain breakdown on his iphone. wait what aretalking bout again?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
I second and like this post. I didn't start jiu jitsu to be a dick, in fact i started cuz i was tired of getting my ass handed to me in mma practice. I've never turned down a rolling partner, that i could think of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Hewson
good to hear mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidBaut
And half the guys too Bobby ... how do you find training partners ?
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Originally Posted by bobby rivers
Simple. I do not hold their involuntary attraction against them. I didn't ask for this. Its all good just as they know I can kill them. It's the ones I can't that I worry about.
They're only human Bobby. They can't be held at fault for their desire to fall asleep in your arms.
I think I may finally have the upper hand in rolling with Bobby now. Next time I'm gonna use the Bieber turtle guard looking back ;-)
*shudders*
^ there in lies my advantage.
Was that really a shudder, or more of a quiver?
I will roll. With anybody girl or guy but I never leave the gym without showing you what moved I used to tap you out .
thats how ive gotten people in my gym into tpjj. i tap them out over and over with things from the rubberguard and then they ask me how i did something and show them at the end of the class.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonathan reyna
Really, Jonathan, is about time you contribute to the forum.
There's a fine line between bigotry and chivalry, and many a law discriminating against women in the past were made with the intent to "protect" them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
Keep it simple, menfolk: Just like you would gauge the intensity and energy level of any other new guy you're rolling with, check with your lady partner to see how hard she wants to go. It's pretty obvious that if you outweigh her by 50 lbs you shouldn't be smashing. That has nothing to do with "chivalry" and everything to do with common sense. We're more flexible and yes, because of our weight disadvantage 75% of the time, we tend to be more technical. Take advantage of the differences to work different angles of your game. And be fair. If I ever catch a guy letting me win "because I'm a girl" I'll call him out for the pansy boy he is.
DittoQuote:
Originally Posted by Jee Kim
Letting you win, or letting you work? I purposely leave common mistakes open as a test to lower belts regardless of gender. If you capitalize, you past the test. The test will be harder next time. Props and don't take it personal.
Depends who it is. The higher ranking do the same. They want to make sure I see shit... I get that and am great with that. I have asked my blue belts partners not to spare me anymore, even if they out weigh me. These are the guys that keep me on my toes in a different way because they will tap my ass out if I fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
What I don't like/want is "pity". It happens, guys rolling like they are going to break us or we would cry if we got tapped.
sound perspective. Just capitalize on their pity. Relentlessly. It wil stop.
I always tell people in class when I see them being "careful" not to put weight on girls that they wouldnt be here if they were easily broken.
Chivalry is actually benevolent or benign sexism because it is based on the idea that women need help because they are women. That having been said, it does not make you a bad person because you hold the door open for women - I usually do the same for women myself. More women appreciate that gesture than hate it and I enjoy the smile I generally receive for the courtesy.
However, for the reason that Jee cites above about discriminatory laws written in the name of protecting women, it is important to recognize such behavior for what it is.
Also, I do not think you are more flexible than I am Jee. Just sayin'
Some people are just stupid.
Personally, I will train with who ever. There were a couple of times where I was the only guy in the day class. I'm also one of the small guys so just about everyone I roll with is bigger than me. I have to adapt some of the moves to make up for my size and lack of strength. With some of the women, it's all about technique.
Im 6'3 205 i been doing jiu jitsu for 4 years now i have never once rolled with a girl in class. The only female i have ever roll with is my girlfriend. (And thats only becuase shes always trying to slap on rear nakeds while im tryin to stretch and it turns into rolling) I have never rolled with a chick in class because more or less there are other people closer to there size that they would rather roll with. I dont wanna be the guy going up to a chick and being like "hey u wanna roll" when i out wieght her by 100 pounds, (looks creepy) not saying i wouldnt roll with them, i just havent. I do believe there is somthing to be learned from everyone, men, woman, short, tall, fat, skinny, blue belt, black belt it doesnt matter. Anyone thats ask me to roll, i'll roll with em doesnt matter to me. Jiu jitsu is for everyone and should be practiced by everyone.
P.S. Let the record show i have never been submitted by a female, not saying i wont it just hasnt happend. :cool: