Looks like barn cats been doing muddy waters for a while now

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Originally Posted by nathan orchard

I follow ya and totally agree. the only thing I do differently is get the triangle locked in from invisible crackhead. but once I do that I still zombie. it would be the same thing as getting the triangle lock from invisible collar which I do all the time too. but not everybody can do that so that is why muddy waters is so effective. but we really should figure out an official name for having the triangle with both arms in so we don't always have to say "triangle with both arms in" it would just make life easier :)

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Angry Orchard..Like the alcoholic drink

http://www.amoskeagbeverages.com/Cid...ard_Ginger.jpg

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

The Orchard.

I'm a creative genius :)

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Something along these lines though. The man that hits it at least once a tournament deserves the credit imo. Orchard is the one I learned it from as well.

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

Man, I wish I could triangle my legs with both arms in, that's a huge position, but unfortunately I'm Mexican, most of us can't do that white boy shit Orch & Cat do. There are quite a few croc variations, muddy waters is just another one.

Muddy waters is the position when your opponent's shoulder is locked with a double bag and his opposite arm is trapped on the mat. He's in muddy waters at that point. He's a lonely zebra on the plains of Africa taking sips in a giant puddle of muddy waters with a croc inches from him chillin beneath the surface :)

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So according to what you are saying Master Eddie, in Cora's 2nd No Gi match, this is exactly what she did, she triangle with both arms in and it just look so tight and dominating. I didn't realize what she got until you said this. So in one tournament, she got the muddy waters in back to back matches?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZI0qlvG33w

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

http://www.amoskeagbeverages.com/Cid...ard_Ginger.jpg

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but I'm not angry :)

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Originally Posted by nathan orchard

but I'm not angry :)

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Jolly Orchard?

Shadey Orchards!

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Originally Posted by Kurzy

Shadey Orchards!

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Go from Crackhead Control to Shady Orchards hmmm

They sound cool although Orchard is neither shady or angry

Well our friend Nathan may not be shadey, but an Orchard can be shadey.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3136/2...72dc6f41_z.jpg

Could also consider Haunted Orchards or Dangerous Orchards or something.

White boy shit:)

I like to give lectures on people's moral values and life goals when I catch the shadymuckyangry orchard. They verbally tap without me ever attacking the arm.

honestly there are five or six ways i consistently tap people from this position. its like once you lock it in you can pick the submission you want like they were cherries. if we are serious about naming this move anything with Orchard in it just sounds awkward to me. we should call it "cherry pickin" just a thought.

what are the other options nate? I know the croc, i'd love to see a cherry pickin vid

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Originally Posted by Jonrivello

what are the other options nate? I know the croc, i'd love to see a cherry pickin vid

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I will work on getting a vid out next week.

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Originally Posted by nathan orchard

I will work on getting a vid out next week.

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That would be awesome. Looking forward to it.

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Originally Posted by Cora Sek

So according to what you are saying Master Eddie, in Cora's 2nd No Gi match, this is exactly what she did, she triangle with both arms in and it just look so tight and dominating. I didn't realize what she got until you said this. So in one tournament, she got the muddy waters in back to back matches?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZI0qlvG33w

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Y'alls need to watch this video again. Cora has taken her game to the next level. Her secret weapon is her patience. She is calm and very poised which comes from her faith in her techniques. The way she waited in the lockdown for the perfect moment to transition to full guard was very ninja-like. Her rubber guard in her first match was just as good if not better than I've ever seen in the UFC. This is some spectacular stuff I'm seeing, especially since it's coming from a 10 year old girl. Her swim moves are looking pretty damn good, although she needs to sharpen up her attacks from spider web. Bruce, you are doing a remarkable job with her. Next time you are in LA I am going to focus on taking her game to even higher levels. Cora has incredible potential, all she has to do is keep the pace she's at. Comsistency is the key :)

Her first match she had her opponent in muddy waters, her second match she had him in the dead orchard :-)

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

Her first match she had her opponent in muddy waters, her second match she had him in the dead orchard :-)

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Well, I guess that settles it.

"Dead Orchard" it is.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Well, I guess that settles it.

"Dead Orchard" it is.

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Alright I'm running with it!

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Originally Posted by nathan orchard

honestly there are five or six ways i consistently tap people from this position. its like once you lock it in you can pick the submission you want like they were cherries. if we are serious about naming this move anything with Orchard in it just sounds awkward to me. we should call it "cherry pickin" just a thought.

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Oh so humble lol. Doesn't sound awkward at all.

cherry pickin is a good one like its so easy to score.

ok the dead orchard it is :) seriously an honor. ill get that vid out next week. you guys will like it.

stoked for it!!, perfect for my lankyness

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Originally Posted by nathan orchard

ok the dead orchard it is :) seriously an honor. ill get that vid out next week. you guys will like it.

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Hell yeah. This is gonna be my go to from rg now

Dead Orchard is the shit!! And I been waiting for this explanation of the Muddy name since the MTS. Haters make fun of our names but if you know where it comes from and the path then it really makes more sense. Also smoke weed.

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

Muddy waters is the position when your opponent's shoulder is locked with a double bag and his opposite arm is trapped on the mat. He's in muddy waters at that point. He's a lonely zebra on the plains of Africa taking sips in a giant puddle of muddy waters with a croc inches from him chillin beneath the surface :)

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TTT for everyone who's noticed the Dead Orchard popping up all the time, and wondering where it came from.