I love the app, I've been telling all my guys about it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Ludington
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I love the app, I've been telling all my guys about it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Ludington
And I love you Mr. Herzog - in the most masculine way possible.. like a brother... or a ... an uncle.. but not an old creepy - sit on his lap kind of uncle - but a cool ass uncle that can break my legs because I stole his gin type uncle.. you get the point...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Chris If I had an android, I would probably be madly in love with your app as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris Ludington
I use it every class brotha!
Yeah Chris, sorry for not voicing my appreciation before but it's the bomb. Eddie said it best when describing you.
I have the new version of your app. Loved the old version just haven't had time to check this one out. Im sure its badass.
I don't find the shipping too bad. I personally find that rash guards in general are overpriced, but not only at the 10P store: I mean everywhere.
It may not make me popular to say that, but whateves.
Frigging local sports stores want to charge $75 plus tax for the Hayabusa rashie I am wearing my my avatar. (National Sports)
I got mine from a guy who owns a small MMA suppy store who gave me a more reasonable price.
The reality is you can get sublimated rash guards for about $24 a pop, long sleeve, as long as you buy minimum order counts.
Those prices aren't even close, Maybe if you order over 200.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
Agreed, Most companies charge you upwards of 70 for a custom 1 off, and if there's a company out there that's making 'em for $24 bones. Let me knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
I priced them out myself from some company in Florida.
Where in florida Mr bookwarking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
Ive never owned a rash guard yet, I use wicking athletic shirts from ross. Looking forward to getting my first real rash guard ever from the Grants Pass Moon.
Iam amazed how expensive rashguards are. Makes sense for custom small orders but for companies like hayabusa I just dont see any reason they should be 60-70 bucks. Must be an insane profit margin.
In the UK rashguards go for between £25 - £45. Depends completely on the brand. Rashguards are the same as everything else, you get what you pay for. High quality sublimated rashies are going to cost a bit more than cheap ones with logos printed on top of the fabric.
I think you got it wrong, its just the way you said it.
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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
It was an outfit called Tufgear solutions but they are not in operation anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Kadek
I am currently in talks with another guy in New York, determining prices so I don't quote anything incorrectly. I have sent him the Peterborough Moon pilot graphic and asked for quotes. Once I get the quotes I will post them here and link his site.
Charging people 60+ dollars for a rash guard is highway robbery imho.
Like I said, I know my opinion on it isn't going to be popular, but I'm ok with that.
BIG time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
sorry man.. I would delete the thread if I knew how.
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Originally Posted by Chris Ludington
Maybe its mostly the design that's so expensive. It's not like there's just a logo and that's it.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Andrew, there is nothing wrong with discussion.
Last year fighterwarehouse.com had the most amazing deals on that I have ever seen, over the month of December.
Now that they are established, they aren't offering deals like that. Last year I spent hundreds of dollars on them, but I got loads of gear for fair prices.
This year, they aren't doing sales and they aren't getting any of my business because of it.
I have a house and two vehicles and two kids and two dogs and two cats, and one wife to take care of. Money is always frigging tight, and so I shop selectively.
All that being said, Fighterwarehouose has the best customer service I have encountered, and they offer free shipping in Canada and the USA, on any order.
Who can beat that?
Show me.
If I could afford a 10P rashie from every moon, I would LOVE to have one, but I can't so I just get the odd one here and there.
From what I've seen for some products, its seems like the norm is they charge twice as much as what it costs them. Some products charge 40% more than what it costs them. For rashgaurds who knows. I'm sure Eddie is charging reasonable if not more tha0n reasonable. Even if he were to charge like everyone else at least he's generous and charges penuts for MTS. And also where are they made? In India or Canada? That makes a difference as well.
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Originally Posted by Kurzy
Well and it's different too like you said, for small outfits. Eddie is trying to make a living doing something that he loves with all his heart.
Hayabusa is a massive company that off-shores their production. I just looked at one of my rashies from them and it is made in taiwan.
So I buy stuff from the 10P store and subscribe to MTS to support Eddie and the growth and health of the 10P kingdom, but I am super picky when it comes to buying other stuff like Hayabusa, etc.
LOL I just want to say Kurzy's opinion does not reflect the rest of our club. I personally did the research and designed, collected sizes and cash, and ordered our clubs most recent rashies and did them through x-guard brand, and they turned out great. However, $25 bucks a pop is an absurd price. If you are doing them with a brand of any reputation and quality (ie. have positive reviews you can contact that can vouch for them, very upfront with business and all costs involved, willing to take money in a safe manner for both parties through avenues like paypal, etc) you need to order a minimum of 50 or more to get even close to anything below $30 per piece...you need to factor in the conversion rate, shipping as well as duties if you are ordering from a company outside of your country as well...$60 per piece and north of that is absurd, especially when companies like Hyabusa are mass producing these, but if you want custom made stuff and quality, you need to pay a little bit.
Xguard is just one company Josh.
At one point I wrote this in the thread:
"I agree with you, llike MTS is more than resonable. But I found that the costs for rashgaurds and ect are the norm from what I'm used of seeing. The rashgaurd at Nordik Fight Club is 60$ long sleeve for example. And on Amazon I didn't pay shipping for Eddie's books cuz I spent more than $25-35. I just thought it would be a win win situation for everyone. "
I just looked again yesterday its actually 49.99 not 60. BUt.... Its one colour and one logo, so its probably less expensive for that reason. And the people I see where one the colour is a bit faded so... I guess you get what you pay for.
I think I'm going to buy a 10p rashgaurd anyway after all this discussion lol. I just wish I was a blue belt because they're so much nicer than the white ones. I'm almost tempted to buy the blue one anyways, no one here knows that the colour of your rashgaurd corresponds to the colour of your belt...hmm what to do.. What do u guys think?
From what I understand of custom rashguards, they run at least $55 (I think that's what Josh paid for our Chicago ones through OTM). There is a minimum order and they are made in California. He then has to pay for shipping to get them to us which isn't cheap based on the amount he buys. If you look at the prices of the other moon's custom rashguards, they are typically $60-$65+ shipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Sarasin
The companies that can afford the 40% mark up are those that print thousands of the same item, probably using overseas manufacturers. There is a big difference between those large companies and a small operation like what Eddie has. I always consider it as supporting the system. I plan on buying leggings when I'm at HQ Thursday and even though they are more than I typically spend, I want to support the system because any money we put into the system benefits us all in the long run.
Thats a big negatory batman. We earn that, you don't just wear whatever color you want. Respect the system and respect yourself. Misrepresentation is the biggest mistake that you can make. We take that shit serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Sarasin
Hespect Youself, Earn your blue belch, wear blue HashgauchQuote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey
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Originally Posted by Andrew Sarasin
Dont listen to the others, ive seen on this forum under other posts that you can buy and wear what ever rash guard color you want. Just dont compete in it or claim that your that rank.
Most rashguards youll buy at walmart are gonna be plain black. Are you not allowed to wear those?
Maybe you look like a tool in white but sexy as fuck in blue
I guess your right, eventually someone would know that the colours represent somehting. Not too many people in quebec city know about 10th planet but i could be wrong. I guess I'm better off not taking the chance then looking like a fake douchbag lol.
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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey
sure thing "henato" lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mejia
I've never seen any threads saying it was ok but hey fuck it why respect the system. Anarchy no rules awesome, good lookin out. We need to tell Eddie we just all wanna wear the black one that isn't in the store.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Brick
Thats not true, they are ranked rashguards and for those that have those ranks (BJJ or 10th P). It is true that you can buy one, eddie isn't going to vet everyone that buys a rashguard. It's based on the honor system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Brick
Because the gear at Walmart weren't made as Ranked Rashguards.
lol, I c what u mean. As u mentioned, its not like I'm telling people im a blue belt, especially with 10p. I'm not representing anyone, just wearing a 10p rashgaurd that's blue maybe. I'll c what others have to say before i make a decision. its not like Ive been doing JJ for less than 2 years anyways. But I don't consider myself a blue belt that's for sure. Once I quit coaching hockey I'll start going more often. I even did a tourney and placed 2nd out of about 6-7 people but either way it wouldn't justify wearing a blue rashgaurd.
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Originally Posted by Ryan Brick
Ryan is inncorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Sarasin
If an instructor says so, I probably should follow his advice over most people. White it will be. unless another instructor disagrees.
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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Well since I'm the moderator of the forum, and its kinda my job to let people know the system rules, I'd listen to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Sarasin
did u mean, why respect the system or disrespect the system?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey
LOL, alright man. By the way, I posted this on a new thread. The title of this one does not reflect on this discussion anymore.
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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
OK so I dug in and found:
A guy in New York who can do rash guards, fully custom sublimation ( http://www.smart-sportswear.com/ )
$31 per piece, minimum order of 12.
$29 per piece, If I was to order between 30 to 100 pieces
I didn't price shipping.
A guy in Pakistan is quoting me ( http://www.zeegoodint.com/ )
$16.50 per piece up to
$16.00 for 100 pieces
$15.25 for 200 pieces
Shipping from Pakistan is approx $160 to $190, all figures in USD.
Both these people have been very good to talk to so far, however I am just pricing so I can't vouch for the quality of the goods without ordering something first obviously.
These are just quotes based on teh images I sent them for the Peterborough Moon Pilot rashguard design picture here:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a31...ps4ef09323.png
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a31...psca806e11.png
Both companies saw the graphic and said "No probem.".