(Video) The Week in Roc Episode 21: The Quarter Ghost to Triangle

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Originally Posted by Angel"EL DIABLO"Diaz

oo and maybe its not the move thats low percentage but the persons technique who cant land it thats low.Just my 2 pennies

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You hit it on the head fella!!!!

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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey

They seem to be mostly from Canada. Always thought Canadians seemed like whiney bitches and they have been confirming it on here lately.

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I've been noticing that too. Maybe we just think a like or there's something more going on here. Hmm

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Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge

I've been noticing that too. Maybe we just think a like or there's something more going on here. Hmm

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I need anger management, they need testosterone treatments.

Wow I didnt originally read any comments before just now. This thread has gotten interesting.

Zog do you even compete bro? lol (Just waiting for that question..Since it always comes up haha)

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

Wow I didnt originally read any comments before just now. This thread has gotten interesting.

Zog do you even compete bro? lol

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Is that dick punch number 3 that I owe you? ;)

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

Is that dick punch number 3 that I owe you? ;)

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ahahaha I think you were suppose to rip my legs off beforehand. No legs plus 3 dick punches. Im not going to love life.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

ahahaha I think you were suppose to rip my legs off beforehand. No legs plus 3 dick punches. Im not going to love life.

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You can come with me on my ayahuasca trip, we'll work it out together.

yay! these are my favorites!

and for the record, Herzog has always been a turd. even on the old forum. that's why we like him.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey

They seem to be mostly from Canada. Always thought Canadians seemed like whiney bitches and they have been confirming it on here lately. One of the reasons I can't stand south fl, none of the fuckers can drive and they flock here every year. Stopping in the middle of the road and shit bc they have no fuckin idea where they are going and think it's just them on the road or they own it or some shit. Bunch a fuckin ra tards:cool:

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Hey now, better watch what you say about Canadians. Last time you went to war with us you got your White House burnt down.

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey

Hey now, better watch what you say about Canadians. Last time you went to war with us you got your White House burnt down.

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Do it again, I don't think anyone will complain this time.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

Do it again, I don't think anyone will complain this time.

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This!

where's micheal jackson's popcorn?

Man, I need this in my game ASAP :)

^right thurr..

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

Man, I need this in my game ASAP :)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIdUlp3QAsk

Apply soothingly to burn..

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey

No. I haven't rep'd it LIVE. I clicked on the thread, watched the video, and commented. I doubt anyone else ran down to the gym and put in reps before they gave you their accolades either.

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Actually, I went out to the Barn and rep'd this move a bunch of times with my neighbor, no need to wait for gym time. I have found all of Herzog's stuff on the TWIR extremely valuable. In fact I think people should pay him for it or make it part of the MTS.

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Originally Posted by NameLikeNoOther

Actually, I went out to the Barn and rep'd this move a bunch of times with my neighbor, no need to wait for gym time. I have found all of Herzog's stuff on the TWIR extremely valuable. In fact I think people should pay him for it or make it part of the MTS.

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No need to pay me, I have no issues with sharing. Unsubstantiated opinions come with the territory.

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

Man, I need this in my game ASAP :)

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Well shit there ya have it, we all know that Eddie only puts "low-percentage" stuff in his game.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIdUlp3QAsk

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LEGIT..... made me LOL at work!

lol

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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey

Well shit there ya have it, we all know that Eddie only puts "low-percentage" stuff in his game.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey

Well shit there ya have it, we all know that Eddie only puts "low-percentage" stuff in his game.

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Are you being serious right now? Are you telling me you've nailed every pass, every sweep, every submission you've attempted without failure? Be realistic. There's varying degrees of effectiveness of any technique along with a lot of other variables that can lower or raise that percentage (strength, skill, reps, etc). Jiu jitsu would be awfully boring if that wasn't the case. Lol. Eddie would tell you this himself. Shit, there's even a sweep Eddie named "Plan B".

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey

Are you being serious right now? Are you telling me you've nailed every pass, every sweep, every submission you've attempted without failure? Be realistic. There's varying degrees of effectiveness of any technique along with a lot of other variables that can lower or raise that percentage (strength, skill, reps, etc). Jiu jitsu would be awfully boring if that wasn't the case. Lol. Eddie would tell you this himself. Shit, there's even a sweep Eddie named "Plan B".

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And the foreigners keep proving it to be true

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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey

And the foreigners keep proving it to be true

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What does that even mean?

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey

What does that even mean?

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LMFAO!!:cool:

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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey

LMFAO!!:cool:

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Yeah, way to address my argument, cool guy! B)

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey

Yeah, way to address my argument, cool guy! B)

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Awe that's so sweet but you can't count jersey. Nobody wants to be in jersey.

Generalizing an entire group is always wrong. Just is. I don't care what country you're from. Its irrelevant as it should be.

Joseph. You have no point and make zero sense. Quit talking for Eddie. He's perfectly capable.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Generalizing an entire group is always wrong. Just is. I don't care what country you're from. Its irrelevant as it should be.

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I understand what you're saying but.....justin bieber:cool:

I love you bobby!

Oh no. No 10th planet civil war please.

Chris, I'm having difficultly creating enough momentum to come all the way around into the triangle. Any tips?

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Originally Posted by Griffin Lambert

Chris, I'm having difficultly creating enough momentum to come all the way around into the triangle. Any tips?

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I'm not coach, but from my experience in using the ghost escape into butterfly taught me two things: use the your lower arm to push off the opponents hip, and pull the the opponents arm as you glide. I feel like pulling the arm as you glide helps you generate the momentum to come all the way around.

I'd say get in a few reps of ghost to sprawl top to get a feel for it. Then work ghost to butterfly a bit to feel out how to get the right momentum. Once you have that down, quarter ghost to triangle will come as second nature.

Personally, I need to brush up on the series because ghost to sprawl, ghost to marce, and the specter are all I've really needed lately. My ghost to butterfly sucks. When I try it's more like ghost to seated open guard. Buuuut, at least I get out of side bottom. It's a good ass series if you give it a shot and actually put in the reps.

What a way to miss on some good sarcasm

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey

Are you being serious right now? Are you telling me you've nailed every pass, every sweep, every submission you've attempted without failure? Be realistic. There's varying degrees of effectiveness of any technique along with a lot of other variables that can lower or raise that percentage (strength, skill, reps, etc). Jiu jitsu would be awfully boring if that wasn't the case. Lol. Eddie would tell you this himself. Shit, there's even a sweep Eddie named "Plan B".

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Generalizing an entire group is always wrong. Just is. I don't care what country you're from. Its irrelevant as it should be.

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thanks bobby. much love.

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

I'm not coach, but from my experience in using the ghost escape into butterfly taught me two things: use the your lower arm to push off the opponents hip, and pull the the opponents arm as you glide. I feel like pulling the arm as you glide helps you generate the momentum to come all the way around.

I'd say get in a few reps of ghost to sprawl top to get a feel for it. Then work ghost to butterfly a bit to feel out how to get the right momentum. Once you have that down, quarter ghost to triangle will come as second nature.

Personally, I need to brush up on the series because ghost to sprawl, ghost to marce, and the specter are all I've really needed lately.
My ghost to butterfly sucks. When I try it's more like ghost to seated open guard. Buuuut, at least I get out of side bottom. It's a good ass series if you give it a shot and actually put in the reps.

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Thanks David. I've been drilling ghost to sprawl for a while and I feel pretty good about it when repping but against good opponents I never pull it off in sparring. I have the same issue where I can't create enough momentum. Thanks for the tips, I'll have to try them out. I know I'm missing an important detail, I just don't know what. Lol

David is on point. Griff the most important detail is to make sure you are on your side when you start gliding. It's hard to gain the momentum if you are on your back, not impossible mind you, but wayyyy less efficient.

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey

Yeah, way to address my argument, cool guy! B)

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oh the irony.

The key to the entry is fighting for half guard. Too many guys miss this detail. If your guys knee isn't in your gut to prevent guard recovery, your ghost chances are reduced by like 80% (made up number just to make a point lol).

You want to shrimp, fight to recover guard or half guard. A smart player will bring the knee in to block your guard recovery. If they don't block, just recover guard. If they do block, that's when you go "whizzer/pimp arm" and go for the ghost. I'm going out on a limb and assuming that's the detail you're missing. Also, be ready to specter as you're ghosting. Just my input.

In trying to find ways to counter the knee slice pass, I came across this video which shows some sort of "ghosting" move. It starts at 33 second mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiDgaXraMZ0

Bruce, The Ghost is my #1 counter to the knee slice ;)

It's no different then using it from Quarter Guard, it's just one continual motion.