Calling Coach Alder and the RGPD! Calling Coach Alder!Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffRace727
Calling Coach Alder and the RGPD! Calling Coach Alder!Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffRace727
Well, if so many folks feel so fired up, has anyone gone over to test it out on him?
Attention whore. Don't feed his ego and he will disappear.
did any of you notice that at 1:18, he says or if he gets it deep its ok, but in reality, it wasnt even deep, and really sloppy. As I have tried to explain to many naysayers from traditional bjj backgrounds, generally guys dont understand the fundamental squeeze and clinch involved with 10thpjj. I've learned that unless they are willing to be open minded and have friendly discussions and open to demostrations as to proper technique, all of your arguing is falling on deaf ears. So see it as Kevin does as worthles self promotion and brush that shit off and get on with your training. We who love 10thpjj do so because of instructors like kevin who saw a different approach to jits and said hell yeah, and opened their minds to accept what was put before them. they took the time to learn to be able to teach the rest of us. And guys that are badass, dont have to say theyre badass, they just do it. So while we can all see kens shortcomings in his video, we shouldnt get to worked up because we know the truth.
Well the thing is, at 1:18 he is also putting hands on the mat to stop the tech, which in, and of itself is a no-no, since you may stop rubberguard, but instantly become Kimura/Hip bump sweep/omaplata bait.
As for the traditional BJJ close minded guys, I guess I am lucky, never met one (not a Black belt).
Ken Primola got his 15min of 10TH PLANET FAME he got 10th planet on his mine (=)
I couldn't even make it to the 1:15 mark.
That is THE worst instruction i've ever seen. F-in pitiful.
I'm sure all his students are aces, if thats what their coach is workin with.
Shouldn't expect team Ken Primola to show up in any top 3 results anytime soon.
the guy on bottom had a terrible rubber guard...i bet he has never even been in a match with a real 10th planet student..so how are you going to try to teach something you know noting about..i saw him put his hand on the mat twice.( a no no if your caught in rubber guard) and his one counter was to slipp out and grab the belt and flip the guy over..most 10th planeters dont wear a gi..this guy looks just ripe for a triangle choke
plus that whole push thru to bring the bottom guy into a regular closed guard...WTF your still caught in the guard..he didnt even teach a pass just a way to stall ..hello a 10th planet player is going to know the closed guard,half guard,spider guard..and how to use them..
i heard about this guys school , and the classes are short and it would take you forever there to learn anything , this is their strategy for moneymaking and not to advance any of his students . as for him challenging us 10th planet guys why not bring some guys out to our schools put on their pajama gis and try .
....*ahem*......mission control; zombie; newyork; chill dog; kung fu .........then start flicking him in the forehead and make him name 10 cereals!!!! heee heee heeeeeeee!!!! *pffft!* baaaaaahahahahahaaaaa!
Fuckin lawyers...
I think he's amazing :)
oh man...ive been waiting to see eddies response to this, lol little disappointed mr bravo haha
hahaha! This is why I like 10P. You're the man Eddie! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
Obviously Eddie is referring to the guy on the bottom who took only 3 tries to reach own ankle...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
Sort of funny. Its understandable when a guy is a fraud/liar about credentials and folks find out and flee, but you really dont have many folks to blame when you are legit and just such a huge asshole people dont want to train with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by VJ Bella
LOL @ the end of that video. Fail.
Ken Primola says "OK, as the punching bag throws up a lazy ass attempt at a pretend rubber guard I use my super human powers of suggestion that he "can't" reach!"
This video reminds me of Jim Carey's schtick on In Living color when he played the Karate World Champion!!!! Epic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAWFBbQa_84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh10UVpfpy0&feature=related
never to be out done,lol
is this guy serious? that video is hilarious. push your head through high guard? how about just flipping him over your head? post hands on mat to defend RG? I particularly like the idea of turning right into an omoplata to get out of RG - brilliant. He just gets there, tells the other guy to go loose, and says "bop bop bop" as he pulls out of the omo like it s a joke. If only real defense were like that.
i am a white belt and i spotted like 10 things wrong with his video on getting out of the rg
What a tool! I'd surprise him and transition from butterfly or half guard into rubber guard. It's pretty tough to stop that lol.
Dude must have forgot the whole breaking down the posture part lol.
jeez, been there myself before :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffRace727
Dont know if anyone else seen this but the dude says "ive sent a student to him". So Im guessing that Ken sent a spy over to Kevins gym already. I just wonder if the student that went to Kevins identified himself as being from Kens Gym. Or if he went in as if he was looking for a school. Sounds like this guy is what I thought he was when he tried to have a Youtube fight with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Keeling
hmm , i been wondering about some of the walk-ins sometimes , some walk-ins think they are gonna run over everybody but usually leave with their tails tucked between their legs
Never had anyone come in who said they were from his school. Weak attempt at pretending he recommends guys to go see me...if he thinks the system sux, y send a student over?? Makes no sense....and if he did send a spy, I ASSURE you he got a taste of the Rg....they all do..I take all the walk ins first so they don't play dumb and hurt one of my new guys...Quote:
Originally Posted by DWdrew
haha i can just imagine this guy coaching his students in a tournament...
"he's pulling rubber guard! its no big deal! just put both of your hands on the mat!" the guy is put straight into a kung fu move "dont worry its weak! just walk around to side control!" the poor guy is ice picked onto his face and knocked out cold.
Remember that probably everyone that has tried rubber guard on this guy probably doesn't know the difference between New York, Chill dog and Kung Fu Move, and are pulling mission control with wrist to toes or foot.
hello,
I saw this thread referencing my name.
Let me be clear, rubber guard, as with many guards, has value. I think Eddie is good. It is undeniable that Eddie started with th egi and developed basics first. That is my problem with rubber guard, people not doing proper movements and relying on it if there is nothing else and not having anything else. Beginners talking like they are Eddie.
As for Eddie, Eddie is obviously a smart guy. He has done some great things. I am not a fan on the pot lingo because I feel it does nothelp our youth because they cannot differentiate a lot of things. I think thats fair of me to say.
I also am not a fan of how big a deal he made of the Royler deal. I think thats fair also.
I also think Gi helps no gi and I know Marcelo tarins a lot of gi as does Roger who I consider to be top level no gi guys.
As per Kevin's assesment of my school, absolutely not true. I have many students and had to weed out the old ones, which took time and I had one of your students before he went with you, I had kind words not even knowing you. I know you rolled with a guy I know, my prior school owner, he said you were decent. Trust me, that guy would have nothing but praise for my top and bottom game in person believe me, Ive rolled with him many times and my students can attest to the beatings I gave him.
That guy Im talking about is an asshole and has been banned from 3 gyms already.
You were fed a lie about me and my school, I have over 35 members on my books, so please Kevin, do not continue to slander my school.
I apologize if I hurt anyones feelings. My facebook remark was based on an individual who talked like he was a rubber guard king and he had lacked basics to boot in my opinion. I wrote a rash post. I would still love to roll with Eddie one day if Im out there.
In any case, Kevin, you and your students are welcome to roll at my school for any sparring session. I have many advanced guys who are helpful and good and it would only help all if you have something to add. You can call me if you want to come down sometime. I can assure you my bottom game is very good as you were led to say it wasn't, my close friend and colleague Robson Moura can attest to that as can many others from many backgrounds. And trust me, if I told you further the history of the gentleman who I believe lead you wrong I think you would absolutely agree with me and my assessment of his character. And after rolling I think you will have kind words of me also. I have some answers to the rubber guard, some things may be difficult I agree, so I respect it. I have watched you roll, I think you are decent Kevin, my assessment is fair in that I've rolled with the elite, you will see I have many guys that would roll well with you.
This is my first and only post on this forum.
Respectfully,
Ken
^^^ ? Why does it say 10th planet delaware?
ummm...kevin is way better than 'decent'. but to each his own i guess...
I can understand making a rash post that was maybe hasty and not as thought out about rubberguard and challenging people, but how the hell did you make a video about rubber defense that is so terrible. At one point you said to put your hands on the mat to keep posture. And you finish it by backing yourself into an omaplata.
I appreciate your respectful post on the forum, but I won't overlook disrespect shown in other places. I've liked some of your video post in the past, but if I ever saw a post of someone showing defenses that put themselves in other submission positions I wouldn't watch their videos any more.
Also, I don't think Kevin was slandering your school, he was passing along information that he has heard about you and your school.
Good day sir.........I said good day.
i agree... im gonna use this to stop compellas rubberguard... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
I'm fuckin way better then decent Ken....check your facts. Jeff is my boy and I don't think you should slander him. My problem with you is you talk a lot of shit about a system you no nothing about. Don't judge me mother fucker til you been in my school and on the mat w me. I don't play nice especially when people talk shit. I'm not the one you wanna get into this w bro. Trust me. Keep your mouth shut and stop trying to make a name for yourself. Don't apologize for being a keyboard gangster. Just stop doing it. Nobody gives a shit what u think about our system or Eddie anyway. Bottom line is, no reasons to talk shit in the first place....u stared this not us. If u were sorry u wouldn't have acted like a tough guy in the first place. Let it go, take your free pass and watch what you say in the future.
Yeah, all this and a middle fingerQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Green
Right?? Like I'd never even knoe he existed or care about him or his school....why go online and say anything negative? But he made it personal, I'm " decent" whatever, I was decent 10 years ago. Then talk about my friend.?? Dude doesn't even know me, never met me.. crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by frank-theman-james
Dude I got ya! Some on here dont approve of this behavior, but me, I Love this shit, and I get tired of hearing people put it down all the time. Glad you stood up and put him in his place. I went through this a couple of months back and was heavily reprimanded by a couple of the moderators, and to some degree I can see their point, but same as here, the guy made it personal and I stood up not just for tpjj, but for myself too. At sometimes you have to say fuck you and bring it. And I know your good because of the respect shown by everyone who has had the pleasure of knowing you. So fuck this asshole, you stood, lay down a challenge, and he disrespectfully declined like a bitch.
[QUOTE=frank-theman-james;23391]Dude I got ya! Some on here dont approve of this behavior, but me, I Love this shit, and I get tired of hearing people put it down all the time. Glad you stood up and put him in his place. I went through this a couple of months back and was heavily reprimanded by a couple of the moderators, and to some degree I can see their point, but same as here, the guy made it personal and I stood up not just for tpjj, but for myself too. At sometimes you have to say fuck you and bring it. And I know your good because of the respect shown by everyone who has had the pleasure of knowing you. So fuck this asshole, you stood, lay down a challenge, and he disrespectfully declined like a bitch.
;)
If kevin is just 'decent' than I must be the worst fuckin guy to ever do bjj. Ive rolled with 90% of the top guys in this area (PA,Jersey,DE) and kevin is one the toughest SOB's ive ever gone against and this includes 2 2nd degree gracie blackbelts. I have heard that ken is good as well...but I think its kinda crazy to say someone is just 'decent' without ever rolling with them or even watching them for more than a few minutes. Kevin is without a doubt the man...I guess we can just let the students settle this on the mat tomorrow at the submission only tournament :)