The worst excuse for tapping?

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

There's a dude that works out in the gym portion here that decided to come in and prove how what we do is for sissies. He challenged me in front of everyone before class. I happily obliged him and obliterated him with a Marcelotine. He said, "I didn't know you could choke each other. Let's do it again, but with no chokes."

So I put him in the Carni.

Every time I see that dude working out in the gym, I make the throat slash at him.

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That's awesome lol

Is it okay to tap if you get one of those super painful toe cramps, that feel like you are crossing your toes, your foot contorts into a claw, and your calf goes into super spasm? Only while training of course, I would just have too fight through in competition.

Cramps and things along that nature I think are ok to pause rolling for. I try to fight it for a bit but sometimes u can't shake it. I wouldn't "tap" to a cramp, I would just ask my partner to stop I have a cramp and it's usually not a big deal. A lot of people cramp up but if it continues to happen every minute or so then get off the mat

What the heck? you're scary.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Also, I don't allow you to tap to cardio. You shouldn't have shot your gas tank trying to spazz all over me for the first 45 seconds.

If you're not puking or injured, you don't get to quit.

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What the heck? you're scary.

I tap from top side because I feel like working my passing. People get pissed and all, "i was good." I also tap from bottom side because i dont want my guard getting passed. Ima selfish cunt. But mat time is pressious.

You can't get mad at anyone for tapping to anything for whatever reason. When we lock the bedroom door. You're gonna be glad there's a safety word. Pineapples..

*Precious

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

There's a dude that works out in the gym portion here that decided to come in and prove how what we do is for sissies. He challenged me in front of everyone before class. I happily obliged him and obliterated him with a Marcelotine. He said, "I didn't know you could choke each other. Let's do it again, but with no chokes."

So I put him in the Carni.

Every time I see that dude working out in the gym, I make the throat slash at him.

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Was his next question "How about we do it again but with no submissions?"

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

I tap from top side because I feel like working my passing. People get pissed and all, "i was good." I also tap from bottom side because i dont want my guard getting passed. Ima selfish cunt. But mat time is pressious.

You can't get mad at anyone for tapping to anything for whatever reason. When we lock the bedroom door. You're gonna be glad there's a safety word. Pineapples..

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U can't be serious?

Im new to the gi. Used by myself after being collar choked by a guy inside of my guard for the first time

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Gates

U can't be serious?

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Why?

Talk to my training partners. There's a bigger picture than the outcome of a single roll. Layers upon layers inception type shit.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Why?

Talk to my training partners. There's a bigger picture than the outcome of a single roll. Layers upon layers inception type shit.

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If you tapped from side control I would ignore you tap and keep going. If I passed your guard and you were selfish and tapped because youwanted to be back in guard you need to earn it just like I earned side control.

My layers are just as important as yours.

I try not to compete with my teammates all the time. When parameters are set, by anyone, injuries have went down and everyone gets more mat time. What I'm doing is spontaneous positional drills. Everyone does them, we just freestyle sessions more. We agree as a team to progress in one aspect of the game. If my tap is ignored, I know you are in competing mode. All good and necessary. But if I sweep or pass, you can't make me keep side if I wanna pass again. But yes, you can keep me in side.

Passing and retaining guard is our weakest point. So I steer our practices that way. They were annoyed when I first started. Now they're better.

That's not rolling then, that's drilling, completely different mindset.

It is.

But I'll pull it at random times. Confusing for some, but really normal for me. I almost always try to keep it under 4 people at a time. I like to talk to them and see what they're thinking and why. Its what happens hen you roll with the same dudes for years with no timer, lil weed, and some internet.

But yeah. If the rolling timer is on at a gym. Fight till youre dead.

This is also the reason why your amazing to hang with. Lots of intellect behind everything and immediate responses to all situational questions.

Anyway, we agree, if I stop a roll early, we both know why. Because either you keep catching something that needs to be addressed immediately, or I do. Some shit you just can't put off when both are so familiar with eachothers game.

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Originally Posted by Krazy Lobster

I've tapped because of my hair, too... Guy knelt on my hair, I tried to turn, almost went bald.

To my shame, I "cardio-tap" way more often then I'd like to admit.

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I just defend until i'm tapped or the bell rings. Where do get the balls to cardio tap?

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Originally Posted by James Whiston

I hate it when people stop rolling because they are unfit and don't want to tap to a submission.

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I always quit after i've gotten tapped a bunch in a row because Im gassed out. That how it always ends for me. What else am I gonna do? Usually other people have already left and only a couple people are down to stay and keep going anyway. Still this is always the end for me, tapped many times because I dont have any cardio left.

Not sure the worse but the most common is "I wasn't ready".

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Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson

I always quit after i've gotten tapped a bunch in a row because Im gassed out. That how it always ends for me. What else am I gonna do? Usually other people have already left and only a couple people are down to stay and keep going anyway. Still this is always the end for me, tapped many times because I dont have any cardio left.

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sissy.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

sissy.

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:)

Last night I got beat up pretty good. I was freaking gassed.. I had nothing left. But I couldn't quit thinking about this post so I took my bumps and bruises and I tried to have "moments" but all in all I just got beat up.
Truth of it is, I'm ok with that.

Not sure which one, but the guys that tell you "lets just go light" are the best. Whenever I hear that my defenses go WAY up. haha

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

If you tapped from side control I would ignore you tap and keep going. If I passed your guard and you were selfish and tapped because youwanted to be back in guard you need to earn it just like I earned side control.

My layers are just as important as yours.

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My thoughts exactly. One exception would be if you are training for a fight and are working on certain things

LOL, it was a joke, but its cool to see you got it lol :P

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

you train with Tito Ortiz?

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I think my best one, caught a high level dude in a twister, instead of tapping he just screams "my back". then I asked him if he was ok, as I cranked it a little harder as he wasn't tapping. he says (in his fancy Brazilian accent) "Oh, I fine. just hurt my back. no need to tap, es not a move." I about died lol

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Originally Posted by Chris Ludington

Last night I got beat up pretty good. I was freaking gassed.. I had nothing left. But I couldn't quit thinking about this post so I took my bumps and bruises and I tried to have "moments" but all in all I just got beat up.
Truth of it is, I'm ok with that.

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Then this thread was worth posting for that alone :)
Good stuff dude

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Originally Posted by Jason 'JFaz' Farren

Then this thread was worth posting for that alone :)
Good stuff dude

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The Nibiru Forum:
Preventing Cardio taps, since a thread was created about it

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I stop anytime anyone taps. It's disrespectful and almost predatory not to. I don't get it. The "learn the hard way" shit only works for some.

Most painful tap for me was when a guy leaned back for a bad straight ankle lock, stomped his foot into my cup, and it dislodged one of my balls. Then, when he readjusted, his toe gripped that nut and stretched it halfway down my leg. I think that one's legit.

I've caught a few high-level belts who stop me to coach the technique... "Let me show you how to do this..." They're presumptuous because I wear a white belt.

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Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson

I always quit after i've gotten tapped a bunch in a row because Im gassed out. That how it always ends for me. What else am I gonna do? Usually other people have already left and only a couple people are down to stay and keep going anyway. Still this is always the end for me, tapped many times because I dont have any cardio left.

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I remember in the beginning when I couldn't roll the full hour, I would have to walk home. It was about a 20-30 minute walk. So I'd leave early cuz I needed enough energy to walk home. LOL. Eventually I started staying the whole hour cuz some guys would help me with a ride. My point is, if you can help it, stay the whole time. It quickly ups your cardio and helps you improve faster.

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Originally Posted by Matt _monster_paul

I think my best one, caught a high level dude in a twister, instead of tapping he just screams "my back". then I asked him if he was ok, as I cranked it a little harder as he wasn't tapping. he says (in his fancy Brazilian accent) "Oh, I fine. just hurt my back. no need to tap, es not a move." I about died lol

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lol. Was it Royler?

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Originally Posted by wancarlos

the nibiru forum:
preventing cardio taps, since a thread was created about it

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bahahahahahahaha +1

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

Was it Royler?

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yes.. yes it was. haha

it's some real delusion to call a painful, static position, a non-move lol

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Originally Posted by RichardC

I stop anytime anyone taps. It's disrespectful and almost predatory not to. I don't get it. The "learn the hard way" shit only works for some.

Most painful tap for me was when a guy leaned back for a bad straight ankle lock, stomped his foot into my cup, and it dislodged one of my balls. Then, when he readjusted, his toe gripped that nut and stretched it halfway down my leg. I think that one's legit.

I've caught a few high-level belts who stop me to coach the technique... "Let me show you how to do this..." They're presumptuous because I wear a white belt.

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You're right, no coach should ever push his students and test their limits. Progress is usually achieved through mediocrity.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

You're right, no coach should ever push his students and test their limits. Progress is usually achieved through mediocrity.

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just a long mediocre crap being taken on the mats

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

You're right, no coach should ever push his students and test their limits. Progress is usually achieved through mediocrity.

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LOL, not the same thing. False dichotomy.

Do what you do in your place, no one's telling you not to.

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Originally Posted by RichardC

LOL, not the same thing. False dichotomy.

Do what you do in your place, no one's telling you not to.

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I wasn't looking for your permission.

It IS the same thing. If I'm rolling with a student and he taps due to his cardio, I will continue to roll with them, and coach them through it, encourage them to keep going even if they want to give up. Afterwards they always appreciate the push, not realizing they own limits until exceeded. That's is not predatory.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

I wasn't looking for your permission.

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Nor did I imply that I was giving it to you. Relax.

Dave did you ever feel victimized by me refusing to let you quit?

Now that you edited your post and clarified your position, it is entirely different.

Rolling with Herzog isn't a fun time lol, especially when you roll with him towards the end of the night or you just had some hard rolls with bigger students. His pressure is enough to suck the life out of you haha. I never tapped from being tired, just dealt with it and kept going. That's how I got better, my cardio now has improved quite a bit. Tapping from being in danger and tapping because of cardio are two diff things. Change your diet or whatever you need to do and suck it up.