I read the book call Ratline: Soviet Spies, Nazi Priests, and the Disappearance of Adolf Hitler
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I read the book call Ratline: Soviet Spies, Nazi Priests, and the Disappearance of Adolf Hitler
By Peter levenda. Check it out
You're asking me why believing something without evidence is crazy or faith based (same thing)? Ok well if there is no evidence for something then you must rely on emotion (faith) to believe it is true. Thinking something is most likely true is not the same as believing it is true. Belief requires faith. To make conclusions about the world based on emotion as opposed to evidence is the essence of insanity imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
No one has put forth that a lack of evidence is evidence to the contrary. To completely dismiss the idea would be to not ask for evidence, right? Why would you ask for evidence if you already dismissed the possibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
It seems you are assuming that simply because people want evidence before they say something appears to be true, they are arguing that it is not true or dismissing it.
When we ask for evidence we are assuming it could be true.
I dont agree that it is "extremely plausible". It is possible but not plausible imo but I'd like to be convinced.
This is the second suggestion I've gotten to read it. I think I probably should ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Kadek
There are many books about hitler escaping to either brazil or argentina, as drew pointed out the idea was well known before these docs were released. Wiki list several on the topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross Davidson
You should also read, "Hitler's Last Days".
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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
A. Not evidence that they are lying about this particular thing. The general public is also full of liars so by an extension of your logic their claims are also suspect.
B. Not evidence that he escaped germany or went anywhere else.
C. Yep, is this evidence that hitler was one of them somehow?
D. There are first person accounts of bigfoot, leprechauns, unicorns, angels, trolls, demons, ect. Many people claim to have a person relationship (to know) jesus, is that evidence? If I posted a video of people saying they know the flying spaghetti monster would you consider that compelling?
What doc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joachim Hoff
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and no evidence of one theory isnt evidence for another theory.
Im not arguing whether or not he actually escaped or not. We dont know and thats all Im trying to say. Its all speculation unless they recover a body, or dna of some type. A blurry photo of an old white dude with a black chick and reports from whats essentially a random Argentinian are hardly evidence. Thats all.
To say its proof due to 1)lack of proof for suicide and 2) because the FBI received reports, is perfect example of logical fallacies. Im a fan of critical thinking... understanding what logical fallacies are and being able to recognize them is part of that and in my opinion this is a clear example.
Love ya dude and I hope or the sake of history you're wrong (which is technically a logical fallacy as well) :)
How would this constitute extraordinary? I find this hardly difficult to have happened.
They probably believe the "official" 9/11 story too ;)
Drew is alright though. Pleasant in his dissent :)
There are people that claim Hitler committed suicide in Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
I agree that it is a plausible theory. Without physical evidence it is just that.. a plausible theory but hardly scientific evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Its extraordinary in the sense that so many things would have had to have been fabricated in order for this to be true.
Im not taking a position.. just that saying its proof is a bit of a leap of faith.
I just hope if anyone did fake their own death and make it out ok that its Andy Kaufman.
Great thread! I'd like to point this out three common logical fallacies that come up on these topics,
Texas sharpshooter fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy
Burden of proof fallacy,
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
and related to burden of proof is, argument from ignorance aka appeal to ignorance,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Andy Kaufman might STILL be alive :)
This is much more fun than imagining a cunt like Hitler living peacefully in the Argentinian mountains :)
http://nypost.com/2014/09/28/why-and...till-be-alive/
Yes, your point is? I dont take their claims as indisputable evidence either. Again I dont know what happened to hitler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
If your gonna call me unpleasant dont be a bitch about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross Davidson
WTF is more pleasant about drews post, the purple belt?
It is a pleasant feeling....being a purple belt. I remember feeling like people were dick hugging the higher ranks back when I was a white belt. Now that I am a purple belt, I just want to find a hot girl who does kegel exercises to hug my dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
I think its my ravishing good looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
From one of my favorite dead human beings, Carl Sagan...
Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler.
Im not trying to be rude.. just have a discourse as I find stuff like this entertaining(and highly plausible.. just think saying its proof is a bit of a stretch)
Love you all.
#andykaufmanlives
Drew is good looking def. a DILF