Darce Defense - Picture Day <VIDEO>

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Originally Posted by Ken Lowery

Too bad I don't stay on the forums like I should too often. I might have seen this technique in time to not tap to a darce the other night. Well I am going to take this into the gym tonight and see if I cant be saved as well. Will update later.

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LOL everyone here is rolling purposely giving the d'arce to people... i tried to give it but they wouldn't take it. ahahaha. i had to just ask them to d'arce me. this defense is nuts. thanks Brandon.

been using that defense for a few months now. Saw it on one of Brandon's earlier videos. Works perfectly!!

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Originally Posted by Aiseop

LOL everyone here is rolling purposely giving the d'arce to people... i tried to give it but they wouldn't take it. ahahaha. i had to just ask them to d'arce me. this defense is nuts. thanks Brandon.

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haha twice tonight i let guys try to darce me #thanksForComingOut

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Originally Posted by Tony Toffolo

haha twice tonight i let guys try to darce me #thanksForComingOut

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Well I tried giving people the darce tonight but noone and I mean noone took it. It got to the point where after rolling, I pulled a friend to the side and told him to darce me and lock it in so I can use this escape.

Outcome
Defense: 2
Choke: 0

10/10 would use again.

Escaping when they counter with the Marce.

http://youtu.be/RSg5EB06Kxw

You're the man BMac! Thanks for being so free and giving with your gifts. The tech really does deserve Lloyd Irvin "Never Get D'Arced again!" style marketing and DVD's, but here you are, just hooking us up out of love of the game and the team. I'm sure I speak for everyone when we say we appreciate you. This definitely ties in with the holiday season.

Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

You're the man BMac! Thanks for being so free and giving with your gifts. The tech really does deserve Lloyd Irvin "Never Get D'Arced again!" style marketing and DVD's, but here you are, just hooking us up out of love of the game and the team. I'm sure I speak for everyone when we say we appreciate you. This definitely ties in with the holiday season.

Thanks again.

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Very much appreciated, David. :)

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Originally Posted by david rosado

i'm sure i speak for everyone when we say we appreciate you. This definitely ties in with the holiday season.

Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Escaping when they counter with the Marce.

http://youtu.be/RSg5EB06Kxw

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I don't typically get put in the Marce. But thanks to this, I have no worries no anyways. If this has even close to the awesomeness of picture day, I'm good. Thanks again Bmac.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Very much appreciated, David. :)

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Christ brandon you ARE the man

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Escaping when they counter with the Marce.

http://youtu.be/RSg5EB06Kxw

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This is very helpful! Thanks. As the marcer, there are some things that I've seen from jeff Glover and Ryan Hall that I could see potentially making it hard for the defender to have space to posture enough to shoot the arm across the body as the attacker slides in. I really want to ask about them, but then I really do feel like it would be what you said, that words on a page can only do so much. Maybe I'll try to ask Glover or Hall sometime and I'll experiment at the gym tonight to see if I can come up with some answers of my own.

Either way, I'm a big marcer so I'll be on the lookout for this haha. Thank you Brandon! Your picture day and the marce defense are really helpful both from the defender and attacker point of view.

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Originally Posted by Mike Nall

This is very helpful! Thanks. As the marcer, there are some things that I've seen from jeff Glover and Ryan Hall that I could see potentially making it hard for the defender to have space to posture enough to shoot the arm across the body as the attacker slides in. I really want to ask about them, but then I really do feel like it would be what you said, that words on a page can only do so much. Maybe I'll try to ask Glover or Hall sometime and I'll experiment at the gym tonight to see if I can come up with some answers of my own.

Either way, I'm a big marcer so I'll be on the lookout for this haha. Thank you Brandon! Your picture day and the marce defense are really helpful both from the defender and attacker point of view.

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I hope you have some good answers for it! That's how we continue to evolve. Counter the counter. Refine the details. The community can all do the research and development together and shortcut the process. That's what is really great about open forums like this.

If you find something slick or wanna show the detail that will nullify this, come back and post it. Make a video and we will keep it private here in this thread.

I will film some more vids next week on how to deal with the Japanese Necktie, Peruvian Necktie, Arm In Guillotine, and Mendes Anaconda chokes.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

I hope you have some good answers for it! That's how we continue to evolve. Counter the counter. Refine the details. The community can all do the research and development together and shortcut the process. That's what is really great about open forums like this.

If you find something slick or wanna show the detail that will nullify this, come back and post it. Make a video and we will keep it private here in this thread.

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For sure man! if I post anything it'll be unlisted and only on here

I'm interested in the Rafaconda defense too. I can think of a couple things to try but against him or anyone else really good with it, it just seems to slow it down a little but you still end up done for. I'm definitely excited to see that.

I have been using it since you first showed it Brandon and I literally haven't been d'arced since. It's a fantastic technique that I always rave about to my training partners! Thank you!

Damn, used it twice tonight against my instructor who is a darce/anaconda/guillotine savage. He literally has gotten me with some version of these 3 chokes hundreds of times. Shut him down both times! Bmacs whole series that he said he is working on getting out just might shut down a huge percentage of times i get tapped. Thanks man!

I plan on letting a fellow 10thplanet player, who is a monster at the darces, lock it in tomorrow and see what the outcome is. I already let one training buddy use the darce and I got out twice. Curious to see what happens when the darce'r(?) knows the escape as well. See if it is still super gangsta when they are trying to shut down that escape as well.

I love reading this stuff. Just inspires me to wanna do more for you guys. And it makes me feel cool.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Awesome to hear that it has already helped you. I'm very cautious with my neck these days, so to hear that it is saving yours is great. Be nice to your neck, boys. It don't last forever.

Once your training partners get hip to this defense, you're gonna see them start sliding under to a marce/farce variation. Be prepared to take advantage of their movement and find top position. By switching to the marce, they will change the angle, rendering your frame useless; but they will also open a brief window for you to switch your hips, extend your trapped arm, and gain top position. Look for that opportunity.

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I was so stoked, man. I literally watched the video as I was heading out the door to leave for class. I have to say, I'm very thankful that I did. It's by far the best darce defense I've seen. Thank you for all of the tips, and for sharing this with us. It's much appreciated. I'm about to watch the new videos you posted, as well.

I have the counter. Im not telling anyone. Sukit.

Youre goin to sleep Bran..

But I would still emphasize that this is my primary defense. I havent been countered while using it and frustrated the shit out of many in the process.

But I have countered. And they took a nap..

Awesome

Let's hope you're right, Bobby.

I wanted to talk trash back to you, but I'm really not clever enough to keep it from sounding cheesy.

So I'll just go with: "your counter sucks. Plus, you're a doo doo head."

These are the jokes, people.

:)

Damn, now I'm interested in Bobby's offense even thought I'm probably not going to use it for like another 4 months.

It's a good reminder that not every defense is 100% guaranteed. But at the same time, you'd be pretty foolish to just stay in the same spot. I think BMac already suggested it, but the idea of picture day isn't really for you to just lay there defending. It's to buy you some very precious seconds so that you can stay in the game and make YOUR next move. So this defense is still a huge game changer even if there are a couple counters.

I used to hate how guys used to sleep on 10th planet. Now I hope they do, because the current rate of evolution is pretty friggin impressive. That means that the element of surprise is very much in our favor. We have some amazing thinkers and competitors helping us all evolve. I can't think of any other team that has evolved as quickly as 10th planet.

Thanks for posting Brandon. I look forward to watching this. (Blocked at work)

Brandon I just want to thank you for this awesome defense, Yesterday when I was competing, I had my first opportunity to try it out, and man I almost started to laugh because it worked so well. :D

As someone who likes to Darce people, i'm seriously considering putting some terrorist threats on this page so the NSA shuts it down!

Thanks for the techniques!

Nevermind the fact that I went on to lose this particular match...here is some footage of the picture day defense in action. You can tell by my coach's voice that we have incorporated picture day completely.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-or...ature=youtu.be

Good stuffs Bmac!

Nice stuff. Thanks for sharing Bmac.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

I have the counter. Im not telling anyone. Sukit.

Youre goin to sleep Bran..

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I like this Bobby Rivers guy.

100% works i used this against a 256 pound purple belt. (I'm about 170)

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Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander

100% works i used this against a 256 pound purple belt. (I'm about 170)

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He did! I can vouch. He used it against me, as well. Bastard! :) I bailed out pretty much immediately.

Would love to see the peruvian necktie stuff.

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Originally Posted by vdesire

Would love to see the peruvian necktie stuff.

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Interesting. I'd be interested to know if this works against a PNT. But PNT's aren't really common

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

I will film some more vids next week on how to deal with the Japanese Necktie, Peruvian Necktie, Arm In Guillotine, and Mendes Anaconda chokes.

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Man I really wish there was a way I could get a couple videos from the Mendes training site to you. Rafa has a couple rolling sessions on there where he uses his legs during the darce (not marce) to either smash or peel away frame defenses. The defenses I saw aren't exactly the same as the picture day, but they're sort of similar.

Rafa doesn't seem to do it as much as the anaconda, but he does darce off the Rafaconda entry. Once rolls through and he presses down the trapped arm, sometimes he runs or rolls up to his knees switches arms through to darce. It keeps the trapped arm between his legs and makes it hard to make a frame like the picture day.

After he starts to choke he'll keep using his legs to break or peel frames if needed. If you've seen the Rafaconda then you know he uses his free legs to smash the trapped arm to deepen the RNC grip. Sort of the same idea with the darce. Once the choke is locked, he'll sit towards the feet and use his outside leg to either peel away the frame with his heel going through the space between the hand and the elbow of the framing arm, or he'll smash his inner thigh down onto the upper arm or elbow to break the structure of the frame.

Does that make any sense? Maybe you'll address the concept when/if you show a Rafaconda defense video, because it's honestly not that different.

tried picture day defense last night, seemed to work rather well. Thanks BMac

Nice, will definitely use this!!Thanks bro.

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Originally Posted by Mike Nall

Man I really wish there was a way I could get a couple videos from the Mendes training site to you. Rafa has a couple rolling sessions on there where he uses his legs during the darce (not marce) to either smash or peel away frame defenses. The defenses I saw aren't exactly the same as the picture day, but they're sort of similar.

Rafa doesn't seem to do it as much as the anaconda, but he does darce off the Rafaconda entry. Once rolls through and he presses down the trapped arm, sometimes he runs or rolls up to his knees switches arms through to darce. It keeps the trapped arm between his legs and makes it hard to make a frame like the picture day.

After he starts to choke he'll keep using his legs to break or peel frames if needed. If you've seen the Rafaconda then you know he uses his free legs to smash the trapped arm to deepen the RNC grip. Sort of the same idea with the darce. Once the choke is locked, he'll sit towards the feet and use his outside leg to either peel away the frame with his heel going through the space between the hand and the elbow of the framing arm, or he'll smash his inner thigh down onto the upper arm or elbow to break the structure of the frame.

Does that make any sense? Maybe you'll address the concept when/if you show a Rafaconda defense video, because it's honestly not that different.

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Which videos are these? :)