Fat Cops hate Dancing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...IWgnqFE#at=227

Your thoughts? I understand the side of those who are anti TSA, but I like to ask this questions of those who are anti TSA: Would you be willing to board a flight, on a regular basis, that did not have any TSA screening? If so, maybe we need a new airline for those who do not want the TSA screening. Good luck finding pilots to fly those planes.

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Originally Posted by Brian Morency

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A1G8IWgnqFE#at=227

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There is a balance between protecting our liberties and our safety. Everyone has an opinion about how much liberty they are willing to give up for what level of security, and no matter how it is balanced, some will say its wrong. I don't mind TSA officials doing 'in what my opinion is a minimally invasive' search of me, my wife, and my kids for our safety. He said the searches are a joke, but I disagree. Of course a well organized and funded group can still take down a plane, but TSA has stopped at least one attack and and an unknown number of attacks that would have been attempted if TSA wasn't doing the searches. This guy believes that TSA being able to search is part of a plot by "The Government" to dominate us and take away all of our freedoms, pensions, and property. I think its a far jump to go from the government trying to balance our safety and liberties, to trying to take everything away from us.

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I'm sorry, did you just call other people immature when you claim to train at Al-Qaeda JuJitsu?

hippie pricks never respect authority.

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Originally Posted by Tyler Timmermans

hippie pricks never respect authority.

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So a 5 year old kid is a hippie?

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Originally Posted by Taylor Culbertson

So a 5 year old kid is a hippie?

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no the 5 year olds parents are.

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Originally Posted by Frank R.

The court's have already decided in favor of the police officers (Oberwetter v. Hilliard) so I guess the district courts are insane too.

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In the past the courts have ruled in favor of segregation as well.

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Originally Posted by Ehsan_Karam

Yeah if they had been mature and just ignored that couple swaying together it might've turned into a full fledged dancing with the stars.

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My thoughts exactly.

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Originally Posted by Mark Hax

The people were there protesting. Not sure what since they cut the video so we didn't see what they were doing beforehand, but it was enough of a disturbance for the police to be called. It was obvious by their behavior that their goal was to get "beat up" by the police on video. When the officer explained what they aren't allowed to do, they did it. When the officer's made the arrest, they resisted. They didn't swing, but pulling away is resisting. If an officer uses a low level of force, and is met with resistance, he is allowed to raise the level of force. Instead of striking them, using a baton, pepper spray, or taser, the officers took them to the ground and handcuffed them. I understand that some people just have a dislike for the police, and the rules they enforce, but this was not a case of police brutalilty.

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Well we don't know what happened to these dangerous criminals once the cops successfully kicked all the cameras out of there, including the press. Wait a minute, isn't there something called freedom of speech? Or was that freedom of the press?

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Originally Posted by Mark Hax

There is a balance between protecting our liberties and our safety. Everyone has an opinion about how much liberty they are willing to give up for what level of security, and no matter how it is balanced, some will say its wrong. I don't mind TSA officials doing 'in what my opinion is a minimally invasive' search of me, my wife, and my kids for our safety. He said the searches are a joke, but I disagree. Of course a well organized and funded group can still take down a plane, but TSA has stopped at least one attack and and an unknown number of attacks that would have been attempted if TSA wasn't doing the searches. This guy believes that TSA being able to search is part of a plot by "The Government" to dominate us and take away all of our freedoms, pensions, and property. I think its a far jump to go from the government trying to balance our safety and liberties, to trying to take everything away from us.

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On this we agree!

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

Let me put it simply. If you support the police actions in this video you are either a teenager or an immature person with no understanding of the constitution which provides the right and protection for people to assembled peacefully.

The cops are mindless sheep doing their masters bidding. Nothing more.

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I hate to admit it, but I actually agree with you for once :)

Ok if you go back far enough in history, of course you will eventually find something that wouldn't apply with today's laws. This specific case is recent and if you bothered to read the facts on the case you would see that those hippies were wrong. Yes we have the first amendment; however, we all know there will always be limitations to that. In black and white, here are the regulations for the National Capital Region:

"[d]emonstrations and special events may be held only pursuant to a permit . . . .” 36 C.F.R. § 7.96(g)(2). “Demonstrations” include: picketing, speechmaking, marching, holding vigils or religious services and all other like forms of conduct which involve the communication or expression of views or grievances, engaged in by one or more persons, the conduct of which has the effect, intent or propensity to draw a crowd or onlookers. [The] term does not include casual park use by visitors or tourists which does not have an intent or propensity to attract a crowd or onlookers."

Regardless of opinion or what you feel; this is the law and it has to be enforced. It's simple to anybody with an unbiased look at things and a little common sense.

If you want to dance go to a nightclub

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Originally Posted by Matthew Edlund

They didn't get locked up for dancing. They got a warning for dancing. They got locked up for disorderly conduct.

"Disorderly conduct offenses vary widely by state. Here are some of the most common acts that are considered disorderly conduct offenses:
Public drunkenness
Inciting a riot
disturbance of the peace
loitering in certain areas
fighting / physical altercations
obstructing traffic
use of extremely obscene or abusive language
loud or unreasonable noise
etc...

Given the wide range of behaviors that could constitute disorderly conduct, a person may be arrested for this crime without proper cause. Virtually any socially offensive or disruptive conduct may be prosecuted as disorderly conduct.

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I'm not trying to be disrespectful when I say this but with this outlook, that many people seem to share in this country is the reason, we as people will never taste true freedom ever again. People no longer use their common sense. People would rather accept the shit sandwich given to them, rather than fight the system for what our four father's wanted us to have. FREEDOM! What sort of threat were these people in your opinion? Be honest, if you were walking by them, would you feel threatened?

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Originally Posted by Matthew Edlund

I'm not agreeing with the people who wanted to have a "dance off" as a demonstration. I'm agreeing with the police.

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It may have been foolish to push the cops like they obviously did. But the law sucks and they asked what law they were breaking and what the charge would be... the police answered with you've been warned.... how bout a non asshole answer from them as well like "disturbing the peace"or whatever law that it is that they were breaking. I have to think that the average Joe wouldnt assume that Dancing would be illegal, I wouldnt assume it was.... I think that there was some wrong on both sides, but just because you have authority doesnt make it right to abuse it either. The police had a very ÿou'll do it cuz we are the police"attitude ...