I won't be competing, but I might show up just to watch.
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I won't be competing, but I might show up just to watch.
y u no show the world your skillz?Quote:
Originally Posted by david rosado
SMH. This guy. I'm in the worst shape I've been in in years. If I'm going to rep 10th, I'm going to rep well. y u no get off my dick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
Y u have soo many excuses? You at blue belt level against white belts. Don't be scared, homie. Not the end of the world if you lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
I cleared my PM box 2 days ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
How many "excuses" do you count? I count one. I'm out of shape. Why in the hell would I compete against guys who have been working hard to get in shape? That would only fuel the 10th planet hate. I'm not afraid of losing. But I respect 10th planet enough to at least put my best effort forward. I'm not gonna show up as a fat slob who gasses in 30 seconds for some Gracie Barra dude to boost his ego.
Consider something here. I posted that 5 days ago. This thread fell off the front page. That means you had to go and dig it up. Why? Seriously kid, get off my dick. Eventually we'll cross paths. We'll slap hands. We'll choke each other. Who knows, you may even learn to like me. In the meantime, either get off my dick, or hit my PM's. Cuz what you're doing here is making you look real vaginal.
You don't have to have a ton of space. Get some puzzle mats and throw them down on a flat surface like a back porch or even public park or pavilion at a university. Even if it's not official, as long as you're training, it's the same concept. Just train and do the damn thing. It will never be a picture perfect situation, just start getting together with the people who have interest.
I can also understand David not wanting to compete if he hasn't been training at least a little lately. I have lowered my standards for personal fitness levels that I'll allow myself to compete at, but definitely wouldn't compete if I haven't been training at least enough to feel remotely confident. When you know where you need to be to feel good going into competition, it's really hard to settle for less. At the same time, when your technique is solid, you need fear not. It can only go so bad in the grand scheme if your a little outa shape. May get caught and tap or outpointed, either way, shows you something to focus on and fix in your game.
I only want you to compete because I care for you. Why else would I always be on your dick. Being out of shape is the exact reason you should be competing. Personally, I find a looming tournament date to be a GIANT motivator. I eat the cleanest and work the hardest when I know I'm going to have to go out there and stand across the mat from a guy that wants to beat me and steal my medal. If you lose, so what. That's a motivator to be in better shape next time. 10th Planet won't turn their back on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
We all have an uphill battle, Mr. Rosado. Although you often call me "kid" or "son", I'm actually in my thirties and choose to compete against college kids 10 years younger than me rather than relinquish myself to the masters division. I want you to get the same "participation belt" that I get to wear, and the only way to get that belt is by participating.
haha
My invites aren't this nice lolQuote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
David was a regular student of mine and is now a long distance student he has my guidance, he doesn't need yours. Don't worry about how he gets ranked, that's my job. Dave clearly doesn't want your advice but you continue to give it. When you get your own school and have your own students than you can worry about them. No one cares about your "participation" and how its relevant to anyone else. Stop preaching, you look like a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
If it's genuine concern, I'll take it. When I say "kid" or "son," it's just slang. But don't worry about me. I have my plans. I'm training again. I'm focused. I'm working out even on my free days. I'm in this for life. But thanks for your concern. You're not too far from Rochester. Come through to the seminar. We'll have some fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
Thanks coach. Looking forward to June!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Wow. Pretty irrational response to a solid piece of advice. Is this not a jiu jitsu discussion forum? Can we not discuss training, motivation, and competition? Those are all aspects of jiu jitsu, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
I've been to one of Eddie's seminars in Rochester. He didn't teach anything mind-blowing, just the basic rubber guard path for the most part with some "flying" shortcuts. He also didn't give me any personal attention or roll with anyone. Not that I care, I'm just saying I could have watch an episode of MTS and saved myself the drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
Not to add water to the fish tank bro, but I don't think he's interested in your opinion about the semi....:cool:
LMAO, this guy is a waste of energy. Haha. I'm moving on.
I think you read that wrong. If he's not interested in competing, I doubt he has any interest in a challenge match with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wancarlos
Ey, okay...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
Who said I'm not interested in competing? I said I'm not in shape to compete. I'll be competing as soon as I get in shape. It's a shame you're not coming to the Bravo seminar. :)
Wow this thread went south faaaast. So yeah if anyone needs some help getting the hotbox going Im in!!! I live in NH but Im cool with going to Mass whenever. Herb and I have been in touch and plan on getting together next week. Hope to meet some of you guys at the Rochester seminar Too! Peace!
Irrational response to solid advice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
No one in the history of jiu jitsu has said "you are out of shape you should go compete", that is irrational and idiotic and how injuries happen. Why do you think competitors train their asses of and go trough training camps, to get ready for competition, not the other way around.
How about grip fighting in the gi won't do damage to your hands, remember that great tibit of advice. The Gi WILL fuck up your hands ands ask ANY high level Gi Jiu jitsu , Judo or Sambo competitor. Your hands, fingers and wrists get fucking jacked from the GI period. Watch some high level matches almost everyone has tape on their hands and fingers, that's not a fashion statement.
You may THINK its good advice, but that doesn't mean it is.
Obviously you care or you wouldn't have brought it up. Your Troll is shining through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
Brought up what? The seminar? That message you quoted was me declining David's invitation to go to the seminar. I hadn't even heard of it before then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Also, regarding the fingers, I remember saying something about the rule of "No fingers in the cuffs" being to protect the practitioner's fingers from being broken. I'm sure you could break your fingers from a legal grip as well, but it is far less probable.
Lol,dude it happens all the time, you don't know what you are talking about, again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
I was referring to you bring up that you didn't get any individual attention, which clearly you find a need to have.
Do you discourage your guys from competing? My professor encourages everyone to compete. You learn a lot about yourself, and your jiu jitsu, from competition. His opinion is that, even if you lose your first match, you already beat everyone that was too scarred to sign up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Do you even pay attention around here or do you just open your mouth to hear yourself talk? My guys compete, fight and win almost every weekend. I absolutely encourage my students to compete, when they are prepared for it. The issue is you told Dave to compete when he stated he hadn't been training and he was out of shape. Your advice is irresponsible. Jiu Jitsu is a contact sport, which is potential dangerous especially if one isn't prepared, and even when someone is prepared bad things can happen. Don't try manipulating what was said, we can all go back and see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
One thing I have learned on these forums is that you are always right, Zog.
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2 screws in my left middle finger from the gi... Never put it on again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
I know there are a few newbies on here in recent times but one of the golden rules of this forum is Zog is always right because he is actually right. There are a key group of posters on here who have put the hard yards in and have more than earned their dues. They deserve respect because of who they are and their standing in the 10th Planet community. Zog is one of them. B Mac is another. I could go on and mention probably 10-20 more guys so apologies to anyone I have missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey
Over the 3 or so years I have been on here many people have come on and been disrespectful (either intentionally or unintentionally) and it has NEVER ended well for them. Ask questions, feel free to disagree with anything anyone says on here but when an answer isn't to your liking don't carry on the debate.
BTW, I have no personal stake in this. I have never met Zog (or Dave or B Mac or 99% of the people on here), I have never spoken to him, interacted with him, trained with him etc. I know he doesn't need me defending him on here as he is more than capable of doing that himself but for you Joseph, and any one else I would just politely suggest that questioning him or any of the other senior members here in a passive aggressive manner will not work out well for you.