what do you guys think about UFO's and possibility of life on other planets

If we keep leaking radio singles into space we'll find out soon enough;)

To answer the question I'll have to say my views coincide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMIyYwq_A8E with this youtube clip.

"when you talk " Aliens " you must remember that everything about them is " Alien " so forget anything you think you know about science or there possible motives. when you talk resources your thinking from an earthlings perspective, again forget any physics or science that were used to on earth, and please don't assume they would have a objective you can understand or science you can relate to"

You would certainly not forget about science and physics.
Laws of physics do not change from planet to planet, or system to system. They are constant and most are easily observable. Measurements of forces (such as gravity or radiation levels) will be different everywhere else we go in the universe, but the math that governs their interractions is unchanging. Technological assumptions based on this math is how we are able to spacetravel, build incredible structures, and communicate across distance instantly with each other.

"you also mentioned " Cost " as if they would have same the monitary system as us. i run into a lot of people who still have there "training wheels" on logically"

"Cost" obvioulsy referrs to resources. Energy and materials. Nothing can get past using energy, that is how things move. And we use materials to build things. Materials are finite.
Obviously not talking about interstellar currency!

You would certainly not forget about science and physics.
Laws of physics do not change from planet to planet, or system to system. They are constant and most are easily observable. Measurements of forces (such as gravity or radiation levels) will be different everywhere else we go in the universe, but the math that governs their interractions is unchanging. Technological assumptions based on this math is how we are able to spacetravel, build incredible structures, and communicate across distance instantly with each other.



That math which does not properly describe the universe. There is a big problem in physics between quantum mechanics and laws that govern physics. We also have the M or string theory, in which it's theoritically to travel a few trillion miles. Look at space as a ball of yarn, not a flat football field.

also check this, if you don't believe it is possible to get to point A to point B without having to go in a linear fashion.

http://earthsky.org/space/magnetic-p...-earth-and-sun


Although, lets be honest, if aliens are competent enough to traverse the space time continuum, would they be so incompetent to not even be able to land properly and crash on Earth? possible, but very improbable.

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Originally Posted by Charlemange August K.

If you look at either of the incriptions on the tablet it refers to servants and nothing to do with Planets.

The “Sun” in that picture actually refers to Shamash, not the sun in our solar system.

All my information is from here : Jeremy Black, Gods, Demons, and Symbols of Ancient Mesopotamia: An Illustrated Dictionary (University of Texas Press, in conjunction with the British Museum, 1992): 168. This is an excellent reference source. Dr. Black is a well known Sumerian scholar. He was formerly the Director of the British School of Archaeology in Iraq and is now university lecturer in Akkadian and Sumerian at Wolfson College, Oxford.



I have read 2 of sitchins books, watched ancient aliens, and looked extensivly into evidence of them visiting us. In fact, I have personally seen UFO's last december and it couldnt be anything but that esp the way they moved and looked.

But NOTHING, you say gives any evidence that it was aliens. You say there is “only one conclusion” how about the conclusion that several scholars who helped argue for the cases in Ancient Aliens, that there is something fishy with our current history, are not even Ancient astronaut theorist, they are a movement of scholars that argue for a lost civilization. Everything you have said, could ALSO be explained by a lost civilization. Most of your evidence has been shown to correlate more strongly with us having a further and more advanced history. Also, if you have taken law, or a basic language and logic class, you can never make a valid, or a sound argument because someone says something is so. For example, if you told me gravity exists because of reason A, B, and because Newton agrees with A, and B, and said so... it would never hold up in court, or in any type of science fair. About 40% of researchers do indepentent studies, including those from NASA and colleges all across the globe. DO you really think that you could keep the existance of UFOs that guarded up from today's youth or researchers? I'll grant you most people are pretty stupid, but we are not that dumb.

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the scientist mentioned no doubt are very bright people, but the problem with scientist is they think they know everything, but most depend on gov grants & university funds to run the programs & will most deffinately not rock the boat by going against the status quo, they will never jepordize there own funding thats why main stream scientist have no credibility in regards to the ufo subject, so they can say whatever they want but it's simply there own opinion nothing more !! Zacharia Sitchin didn't care about gov funding or the status quo, & his research is being confirmed by modern science. people keep saying oh! it was advanced humans but again, the anchients across the globe not just the sumarians all say NO! they came from the stars, native american indians called them star people, and ther petroglyphs show beings that look like the gray aliens people report, ufo's are in rennasance art ect. Sitchin didn't care about being popular & he has both the Hardware & Software & confirmation from modern science, none of the above scientist have the software or modern science to confirm there claims it's just ther own opiniions, witch is fine ! but I'd rather listen to both the Hardware & Software & dudes who have actually been in space like astronautes like Gordon Cooper & Edgar Mitchell, as well as russian cosmonauts, no disrespect to any of the mentioned scientist but there opinions don't mean shit compared to the testamony of actual "astronauts" are ufo's real ? of course
they are ! are they aliens ? maybe maybe not ! but when you have military generals, heads of nuclear installations, former black project officials, former members of crash retrieval teams like cliff stone, pilots, police officers, & astronauts saying there "Aliens"
and theyve seen bodies and what they describe can be found on cave walls, well ! if it walks talks and acts like a duck then it's probably a duck, as for the crashes ! just becasue there super advanced doesn't mean there invincible & perfect in every way ! they could be soo "Alien" that certain potential threats to there system may not even be on there radar. just because there advanced doesn't mean they can't make mistakes, crash or be shot down.

Regardless, while witness testimony may hold up in the court of law, it is the lowest form of evidence in science.

And all the beings that the "ancients talked about" have also been reported in psychedelic experiences, that includes the cave art. Read "Food of the Gods" by Terrence Mckenna and "Supernatural" by Graham Handcock. They have a lot of evidence that these beings and gods were from psychedelic states of altered conscience. Even Rick's book "DMT the Spirit Molecule" goes over an extensive overview of how similar some experiences are to alien abductions, some experimentee's even had the same experiences or something very identical, without even talking or knowing each other.

I think that it is way more probable that we had technology that was quite advanced in the past, and that most "alien experiences" are derived from psychedelic states of conscience, which existed in almost every society you mentioned or more, and I do this only because there is more evidence supporting that.

Although, what you say is not impossible, it is just more improbable considering current evidence.

And let us not forget, UFO = unidentified, which mean you do not know, which also means that if you do not know, you cannot come to a sound argument saying that it MUST be aliens. that is a classic ignorance fallacy, in which all of these "eye witnesses" have made. Unless they saw what was inside grabbed some awesome alien tech and said, see look at this. It's going to take more than something that is equivelent to boogy man and ghost sightings to prove we have been visited recently.

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Originally Posted by Charlemange August K.

Regardless, while witness testimony may hold up in the court of law, it is the lowest form of evidence in science.

And all the beings that the "ancients talked about" have also been reported in psychedelic experiences, that includes the cave art. Read "Food of the Gods" by Terrence Mckenna and "Supernatural" by Graham Handcock. They have a lot of evidence that these beings and gods were from psychedelic states of altered conscience. Even Rick's book "DMT the Spirit Molecule" goes over an extensive overview of how similar some experiences are to alien abductions, some experimentee's even had the same experiences or something very identical, without even talking or knowing each other.

I think that it is way more probable that we had technology that was quite advanced in the past, and that most "alien experiences" are derived from psychedelic states of conscience, which existed in almost every society you mentioned or more, and I do this only because there is more evidence supporting that.

Although, what you say is not impossible, it is just more improbable considering current evidence.

And let us not forget, UFO = unidentified, which mean you do not know, which also means that if you do not know, you cannot come to a sound argument saying that it MUST be aliens. that is a classic ignorance fallacy, in which all of these "eye witnesses" have made. Unless they saw what was inside grabbed some awesome alien tech and said, see look at this. It's going to take more than something that is equivelent to boogy man and ghost sightings to prove we have been visited recently.

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no one in the ufo research field says they know for sure, but main stream scientist always act like they "know" & they truly don't know shit. like i said multiple military officials say they have seen actual " bodies " of aliens from crashed ufo's. to assume oh! there just advanced people is the real ignorance you speak of. either way you can have your own opinion but just don't act like you know for sure and any other opinion is ignorant. just because some random scientist says something different. like i said i'd rather listen to military officials, astronauts ect. because they don't depend on gov grants & there credibility is unquestionable. so lets agree to disagree

Science is constantly checked. Many scientists dedicate their entire life's work to disproving other scientist discoveries and theories.

The Roswell "crash" stuff is declassified now. Go read for yourlelf instead of listening to crazy hair guy on Ancient Aliens.

Yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUIr7b_MPrU&feature=plcp


This was my, This I Believe project. http://thisibelieve.org/