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i don't know what a movie set has to do with a real historical HQ of an actual historical group. but oh well ! i guess in your mind a retarded response is better than no response at all. fact Masayef is a real place, the Nasari Ismali were a real secret society of asassins & it is what it is dude. don't just say some silly shit for the sake of argument because you can't accept when your wrong about something. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay Chow
Nice Ad Hominem.
I have ordered tonnes of books from that site. The book I suggested is historically famous. Your resistance to the idea of the illuminati doesn't change reality.
Wait, you're calling me retarded? You can't even spell :/Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
The fact that a place is real doesn't mean that the people you talk about were real. The picture I posted is an actual place in Tunisia. Star Wars told the story of Luke Skywalker living there. By your logic, this means that Star Wars was non-fiction.
Just because a story is written down in a book does not instantly mean it is historical fact. For example:
http://www.ugandapicks.com/wp-conten...olly-Bible.jpg
I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. I'm saying that you can't possibly know.
Jay Chow, have you done your research? Derrick actually is right. Masyaf is a real place. The hashashins were a real group. The word assassins comes from there. Whether there's a conspiracy or not, that's up to you to believe or not. But the rest is factual. The simple fact that you're resorting to childish rebuttals like pointing out spelling and referring to obvious fiction is telling. It tells me you haven't done enough research to give a proper rebuttal.
lol damn your silly, first you say Masayef & the Nasari Ismali, the Knights Templars, and all other secret societies arent real and it's just from a game, then I show you actual pictures of the real Masayef, so then you concede that Msayef is real but i don't who used to live there lol, but any historian in the region will tell you that was the home of the Nasari Ismali or Hashshassin. you want more info ? William de Monforette was killed by the Nasari Ismali and guess what, he was a real dude. I don't think darth vader was ever a real person. and there is plenty of records on the Knights Templars and ther crusades into the holy land. especially the bible. and the standard british cross is also the symbol for the knights templars. but hey ! historical records, researchers and historians are all wrong compared to your internet expertise.
I'm not saying that the Assassin's weren't real, and I know that it's an actual place. I'm merely playing Devil's Advocate. I'm also not denying the existence of the Templars. All my point is...you can't take the word of someone as truth just because it's written in a book or a historian says so. They weren't there. All they know is what has been passed down since those times. Most people are full of shit, and as the saying goes, "History is written by the victors."
I never said that I didn't believe that the Illuminati were real. I don't know. They could be. I'm just implying that this video is probably full of shit.
Even if they are real, it doesn't matter. If they are as powerful as everyone claims, there is nothing you can do, so why worry?
Next you'll be telling me that Noah's Ark is real because it's written in the Bible.
Also, I'm not saying you're wrong, Derrick, just don't be so sure that what you say is actual fact.
that's funny because based on this quote you didn't know shit about Masayef or the Nasari Ismali until i told you. now you say you knew all along & was just playing devils advocate lol, it's funny how people back track when faced with facts. & the problem with playing devils advocate is it really is just like pissing in the wind with nonsense & telling people it's raining. especially when others are trying to have an intelligent discussion with factual referencesQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay Chow
I know about the Masyaf and the Nizari because I've also played Assassin's Creed. I haven't backtracked once :) Don't claim to know facts because you've played a video game and read a wikipedia article. I presume you also believe that the world is going to end next Friday? No? But it says so in Assassin's Creed...Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
lol i hate to tell you this, but i knew about the Nasari Ismali well before there was even a PS3. how ? because we read about anchient civilizations & secret societies in my humanities class in college circa 2002, we covered sumeria, acadia, secret societies, laws of hamurabi, ect. no mention of star wars thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay Chow