Has your jiu jitsu ever let you down?

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Originally Posted by Andrew T

Looks like your training hasn't let you down! They fucked with the wrong guy. Cheap shit cowards will kick the shit out of you if you're one on one with their buddy on the ground so try to keep it standing as long as possible if you're fighting off more than one guy and use your footwork and side to side movement to make them get in each others way so they can't all have a clear line of vision at you.

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I finished the arm bar from mount without falling back all while looking right at his two drunk buddies that were still sitting on the curb, they didn't know what just happened and were feaked out with me glaring at them like they were next. They would have needed to get up and cover about 30 yards to get to me. So I felt pretty much in control, I could have stood and ran at that point insted of finishing the armbar. They were drunk after all and I was very sober.

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Originally Posted by ern

yeah, tried to toss a guy with a standing throw,cant remember the japanese term for it. hit it in the gym and drilled it a bunch. Problem was we were on a gravel and dirt road and I hit it but slipped, landed face first with the guy beside me. I did actually pull guard on the guy as he tried to roll me over, but pullingguard on a mat and pulling it on 2b gravel is not the same. I don't blame my BJJ training, as I normally never use it in real life, but I was trying to subdue this guy and not beat the crap out of him. Big difference in my mind.

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Ippon Seoi Nage

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Originally Posted by Ric

In the past month I've had conversations with 2 friends who were disappointed that their jiu jitsu wasn't well suited to the self defense situations they were faced with. In both cases, the victim was jumped by more than one person and the victim realized that their BJJ training hadn't dealt with much self defense training. Both have decided to continue BJJ training, but one of my friends added Krav Maga to his schedule.

Having come from a Karate background, I always feel I'm sort of prepared for the street. The mix of karate and BJJ that I would use in a fight would hopefully be enough. I could be deluding myself though. I've never been in a self defense situation, so I don't really know how I would react.

Has anyone else here ever been in a situation where they were ultimately disappointed in their BJJ training?

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I train at a Gracie Barra they usually do the self defense portion from standing one technique every class. I think it has helped me out ALOT but I know a lot of schools that focus on sport bjj and competition completely ignore this very important aspect. I feel more prepared since I switched over to GB then I would have been if I just stayed and trained at my old BJJ gym.

Ive had to use my BJJ in a street fight twice and both times it worked out. The first time a bigger guy threw a haymaker and I got him into safe clinch and then controlled him and hip tossed him. The second time was on the beach in miami and I used my drop seoinage to take him down and just controlled him till he gave me his back then I used the RNC

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Originally Posted by Ric

Any chance there's a You Tube of this? Sounds very amusing ;)

Disclaimer: No offense intended, just making a joke.

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No worries, I wasn't offended. To answer your question, No, there is no youtube or video of it. The guys at work would just keep sending it to me for the rest of my career, make photos out of it and post it all over the office, etc. His lawyer would have loved to have had a video of anything that made me look bad.

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Originally Posted by Kyle Spalla

Ippon Seoi Nage

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Thanks. I can never remember those names.

If you guys ever want to check out judo check this site out,

http://judoinfo.com/gokyo.htm

Also dont make any snap jugements but these guys seem to have the Koryū and the Gendai budō locked down,

http://www.akban.org/

http://www.akban.org/wiki/Category:N...ing_techniques

The issue with "Jiu Jitsu Failing You" isn't that it failed you. It's just not always applicable in multi-opponent/multi assailant situations, Who are kicking, Punching, Biting, Stabbing, Shooting. I think of myself as a pretty proud individual, but if someones trying to rob me with a weapon, It's not that big of a deal to me to let my wallet go and live another day, Drunk guys at a bar getting too rowdy, is it really worth putting them out, and risk getting suckered by a beer bottle, stabbed, or something like that. Don't get me wrong in no way, shape, or form, am I saying to not defend yourself or protect yourself, but when you're n a situation where your out numbered even the best fighters should probably take a walk. Just because you're a blackbelt in Jiu Jitsu, a blackbelt in TKD, or a Blackbelt in Trash Talk doesn't qualify you to take on 3+ guys. If you're in a situation where there is no hope to "escape and evade" and you have to stand your ground, do it standing. Hopefully you have a buddy you can scrap side by side with. But in the case of guns, Knives, Multiple attackers, they can have my wallet, they can have my phone, I can always get another one.

I've been in a situation where there was no out, and 2 on 2 turned into 12 on 2. If you don't believe me, you can ask the Panda. We were on a roadtrip for my sisters hockey games and some drunk frat boys, started puking in the hallway and they were doing blow in their room with the door open, and Panda politely asked them to chill out because my sister and her friend were in the room next door. One guy got brave and stepped in the Panda's face, I hear my mom screaming for me to come out of my room, so naturally I push the Panda out of the way and get nose to nose with this guy, somewhere in there someone pushed someone and it all got set off, 2 turned to 12 and it was a full on melee. I walked out unscathed, the panda had a nice cut from getting suckered by a guy with his class ring on. We were lucky no one had a knife or any sort of weapon. So moral of the story is, if you can avoid confrontation, Avoid it.