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Very slick !! I been adding leg locks to the arsenal. So this will be drilled and added asap !! Thanks !

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Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson

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I can see how turning your palm to your chest offers less crushability but, if they have their hook snug inside your elbow joint with their thumb pointed up, how is that not gonna work?

No secret, Im a skeptic but . . . . I'll try it tonite. Do you have a skinny arm? Rubber elbow? :) Some of the people I crush feel it as a bicep slicer and tap before its leveraging the elbow joint. I like to rub my forearm bone a bit into the spot where the biceps turns into connective tissue (head of biceps?)

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little black kid scrutiny, lol, yeah it relives pressure. it still hurts a bit but its like comparing someone sitting on you compared to someone choking you. the thing about it is it doesnt matter too much about how snug the hook is because its once the defending hand passes the leg. the guy in spiderweb still has the arm but has lost the leg on top of the arm to apply pressure. i do have good flexibility but ive worked it with other guys aswell and they all had it work too.

not that ive tested it out but i assume bigger guys would have more trouble with it and if someone gets the arm crsh on right away then it might not help. still it gives those few seconds to help and sometimes i get out.

i hope that helps explain things, im not saying this is the bees all and end all but its gotten me out of lots of problems.

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

I really like this. But I suck at one leg knee bars. I'm slow and guys always twist out of them too fast for me. But I think I can pull this off by going spiderweb into russian cowbow and use the kneebar/toehold attack that Vinny Mag showed Beaumont.

Awesome thinking outside of the box Brent. This is awesome to see people always expanding the game.

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^^^ this.

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Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson

Did u see the one I post from gokor that was knee bar from being trapped in spider web? It was on rolled up.

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Possibly. That might have been the one I was looking for. Was it more similar to the thread video?

Slick techique, there is a similar transition in Sambo from a failed armbar attempt, but I really dig your set up. My only concern is the way you are using the "Shotgun" grip, When your arm is on the outisde of their leg and grabbing your but/hip, there is a Omaplata esque counter if its done that way. I'd just suggest keeping your hand on the inside with your palm on their calf, and keep your elbow on the outside pinching backwards. The counter is rather obscure, but best to be safe.

That's a slick little set up. One of our guys went to a Rigan Machado seminar a few years ago and came back with this same move. I must confess, I haven't tried it at all. But I love the idea.

I'm big on jumping to the toe hold from Spider Web.

Good stuff, Brent :)

Played with it last night, kept forgetting to bring the arm around the backside of the leg, which i found out, is crucial to the finish lol.

Was able to hit this transition last night. I like it.

Great set-up, sell that arm-bar and if they ain't buying, you got a knee-bar at a fat discount! Capitalism!

I'm very glad you all can fall in love with this transition from the armlock to the kneelock. Like Eddie always says, arm crush to armlock if the best game from spiderweb, but man having that extra surprise can lead to a quick victory :)